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I wonder how much better the PD 4300/6300 CPUs are to their BD counterparts. wheee.gif
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i Guess For AMD FX-8320 Supports HD7000 Series Not Intergated Graphics???
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q6600 released q1 2007 announced 2006 so im a bit off and you missed the point of the post

Not to be pedantic... but technically he said "real" quad cores The Q6600 was 2 dual cores pasted together on the same wafer. The first monolithic quad core was the Phenom I. Unfortunately for AMD they went quad at the wrong size (65nm) and couldn't control the temperatures - which kept them severely limited on how high they could push the clocks. You still are right about the year though, as the original Phenom was out in 2007.

I agree with your original point about i3 vs wolfdale though. Roughly the same TDP, superior performance. However, keep in mind that SB-type advancements don't come around every year.
    
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Sounds promising but I'll believe it when I see it. And I get to buy another new motherboard, yippee. I'm still pissed at Asus for throwing my AM3 motherboard under the bus and giving up on BD support. I'm not buying another motherboard over $100 again, ever. I just end up replacing them every year or two anyway. End rant.
    
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Thanks to the Resonant Clock Meshing technique, you can expect high clock frequencies.
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i Guess For AMD FX-8320 Supports HD7000 Series Not Intergated Graphics???
Besides AMD FX-8320 and HD7000, every other capitalized letter shouldnt be capitalized.......and the "i" should be capitalized? Why you modern humans use backwards grammarz? Sorry, I know, offtopic.gif

As others say, MOAR COARZ ( that should be turned into an old medieval song\chant
MOAR COARZ!
We lads at AMD chat
MOAR COARZ
For the confused consumer and fool alike
MOAR COARZ
-etc-

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Read it almost as 8300 cores. 
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Read it almost as 8300 cores. 

It wouldn't surprise me. Each core runs at half a megahertz. Bcuz more cores=better CPU.
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It wouldn't surprise me. Each core runs at half a megahertz. Bcuz more cores=better CPU.
Actually higher clocks equal a better CPU. The problem is the industry is limited, so they have no choice but to add extra cores. A 12GHz single core would crush a 3GHz quad core. Except achieving them speeds isn't possible yet. We need technology like the resonant clock mesh that will lower power consumption and heat, in order to crank up the clocks.
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It wouldn't surprise me. Each core runs at half a megahertz. Bcuz more cores=better CPU.
Actually higher clocks equal a better CPU. The problem is the industry is limited, so they have no choice but to add extra cores. A 12GHz single core would crush a 3GHz quad core. Except achieving them speeds isn't possible yet. We need technology like the resonant clock mesh that will lower power consumption and heat, in order to crank up the clocks.
It's a combination of both that makes them good. A 12GHz single core would crush a 3GHz in single-threaded apps, but the quad core would ruin the single-core in multi-threaded apps. That's not taking IPC or anything like that into account either.
 
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The current Bulldozer architecture that powers the AMD FX series of processors is not exactly an optimal solution. It works, and seems to do fine, but it does not surpass the performance of the previous generation Phenom II X6 series of chips in any meaningful way. Let us not mention how it compares to Intel’s Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge products. It is not that the design is inherently flawed or bad, but rather that it was a unique avenue of thought that was not completely optimized. The train of thought is that AMD seems to have given up on the high single threaded performance that Intel has excelled at for some time. Instead they are going for good single threaded performance, and outstanding multi-threaded performance. To achieve this they had to rethink how to essentially make the processor as wide as possible, keep the die size and TDP down to reasonable sizes, and still achieve a decent amount of performance in single threaded applications.

Bulldozer was meant to address this idea, and its success is debatable. The processor works, it shows up as an eight logical core processor, and it seems to scale well with multi-threading. The problem, as stated before, is that it does not perform like a next generation part. In fact, it is often compared to Intel’s Prescott, which was a larger chip on a smaller process than the previous Northwood processor, but did not outperform the earlier part in any meaningful way (except in heat production). The difference between Intel and AMD in this aspect is that as compared to Prescott, Bulldozer as an entirely new architecture as compared to the Prescott/Northwood lineage. AMD has radically changed the way it designs processors. Taking some lessons from the graphics arm of the company and their successful Radeon brand, AMD is applying that train of thought to processors.

Now what Ive seen with the Trinity bench is AMD has adressed the areas that Bulldozer in the area of power consumption. The A10 5700 runs at 3.4 and turbo to 4.0Ghz at 65W
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