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EA ruined a wonderful franchise (BF2142 was the last game released before EA fully acquired DICE, the next game was the console-only BFBC).

Ehhh EA already owned like 65% of DICE a year before 2142 released, but I see where you're going with it. EA has "destroyed" every game franchise they've gotten their hands on. BF4 is a little bit further away at least. ~Mid 2014 release or later maybe, which is about 3 years after BF3. That's not so bad if it's a quality release.
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 7/17/12 at 8:44am
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Would much rather see a 2143 title before a proper BF4.

Titan mode on a matured FB2 engine would be unreal.
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DICE..... doh.gif
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Ehhh EA already owned like 65% of DICE a year before 2142 released, but I see where you're going with it. EA has "destroyed" every game franchise they've gotten their hands on. BF4 is a little bit further away at least. ~Mid 2014 release or later maybe, which is about 3 years after BF3. That's not so bad if it's a quality release.


Well, the point is that prior to EA's involvement the Battlefield franchise was PC focused and excellent (IMO). Once EA got involved with DICE, it's been con$ole focused ever since. Pre EA it was PC-oriented: BF1942, BF Vietnam, BF 2, BF 2142 .. Enter EA: Next release is console-only BFBC, BFBC2, BF 3, now BF 4. Battlefield 2 is my second favorite game of all time behind FF7, but I think Battlefield 3 is just awful and I'm pretty disappointed by it.
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^ Totally agree with you there, didn't mean to disagree/argue that at all. I'm absolutely disgusted by the "dumb it down" approach developers have taken, all to market it towards casual console players. I can't think of any recent games that are made for a true gaming enthusiast. Games like BF2/Project Reality and Arma 2.
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^ Totally agree with you there, didn't mean to disagree/argue that at all. I'm absolutely disgusted by the "dumb it down" approach developers have taken, all to market it towards casual console players. I can't think of any recent games that are made for a true gaming enthusiast. Games like BF2/Project Reality and Arma 2.
ARMA 2 is confusing as Scientology.
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Well, the point is that prior to EA's involvement the Battlefield franchise was PC focused and excellent (IMO). Once EA got involved with DICE, it's been con$ole focused ever since. Pre EA it was PC-oriented: BF1942, BF Vietnam, BF 2, BF 2142 .. Enter EA: Console-only BFBC, BFBC2, BF 3, now BF 4. Battlefield 2 is my second favorite game of all time behind FF7, but I think Battlefield 3 is just awful and I'm pretty disappointed by it.

What did you expect them to do?, they had to change business models on the fly since software piracy was killing PC gaming, I don't blame them for making BFBC a console only game, they are a company after all, they had to make money, and at the time it made more sense to release a console-only game vs a PC game.

The truth of the matter is, we wouldn't have all this games to play with now if not for the wider reach of the consoles, so think about that for a minute.

I'm pretty happy with how BFBC2 and BF3 turned out, BF3 is the best MP shooter I've played IMO (including BF2), BFBC2 was pretty epic as well (over ~1100 hrs logged according to Steam).. the only grudge I hold against DICE is that they haven't confirmed the development of a 2143 title lol.
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What did you expect them to do?, they had to change business models on the fly since software piracy was killing PC gaming, I don't blame them for making BFBC a console only game, they are a company after all, they had to make money, and at the time it made more sense to release a console-only game vs a PC game.
The truth of the matter is, we wouldn't have all this games to play with now if not for the wider reach of the consoles, so think about that for a minute.
I'm pretty happy with how BFBC2 and BF3 turned out, BF3 is the best MP shooter I've played IMO (including BF2), BFBC2 was pretty epic as well (over ~1100 hrs logged according to Steam).. the only grudge I hold against DICE is that they haven't confirmed the development of a 2143 title lol.


The thing is, when people make these arguments along the lines of "What did you expect them to do, they're a corporation, they have to make money, etc. etc." it seems to overlook the fact that as a corollary, I am a consumer, and I can choose to have a certain opinion about a product and about the conduct of a corporation and from that opinion decide whether or not to give them my further business.

Anyone who claims that Battlefield 3's handling is just a case of a corporation struggling to make money in the face of PC piracy clearly hasn't been paying enough attention to what has been going on. Battlefield 3 has been commercialized and streamlined to make as much money as possible and absent quality and complexity any other principle besides "as much $$$ as possible any way we can do it."

Companies do not have to behave this way to be profitable. Valve does not behave this way (or at the least to anywhere near the same degree) for example. And as a consumer, I can factor in the conduct of a company as well as the quality of their product in determining whether or not I will be giving them my business. As far as I am concerned, EA has ruined the Battlefield series and I do all I can to avoid buying games from them in the future. (This is completely valid even from the perspective of "well they're a corporation they can do whatever they want as long as it's to make money" point of view.)
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Guys, they just ~announced~ it.

Look at the damn date.
"Access to the exclusive beta will be available in Autumn 2013, and further details on Battlefield 4 will be revealed at a later date, said EA."

Autumn 2013. That means, judging by the BF3 alpha and beta, we won't be seeing BF4 until early 2014.

Stop freaking out, like usual. Never ceases to amaze me - over 28 pages of OMG YEARLY RELEASES.
Did anyone pay any attention to the span between BF:BC2 and BF3? No, everyone was so busy fighting over BF3 vs MW3 that no one cared. Now they're doing it again, but this time no one has anything to fight about like MW4.
    
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