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Cheap. Cheap as possible. Under $90.

LGA775. Won't need to go above 200FSB, from stock 133FSB. Some mobos have limits, from what I've seen, have the max FSB based on the stock FSB, even if it can higher it won't. Not sure if it was only the mobo I was looking at, or quite a few.

Going in a rig for my grandpa that mobo died. Has a Celeron 356 and the idiot that was paid to get rid of a virus (I would've done it, but my grandpa lives a good 2 hours from me) for some stupid reason opened the case, and shorted the mobo somehow).

Mind as well clock it up some. If its too much I'm just going to say screw it and leave it stock. Folds as well as does his email and such, as well as my grandma's |-| 4 R |] [ 0 R 3 solitaire sessions.

And IGP is a plus, but not needed. I have a 6600 Vanilla laying around that I used when I didn't have a mobo with intergrated, and I'd like to have something to use if I ever do need to use it. Doesn't matter though, I'll throw it in if I need too. *tear* Won't be pushed though.
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Howdy Pook!

DDR or DDR2? And for a board without onboard, AGP or PCI-E?
    
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Hola Chozart.

DDR2 preferably. They still have the RAM and such from the old computer and its DDR2. I have some DDR laying around, but I'm pretty sure DDR2 would still be the better way to go, since what I have is DDR333...

The 6600 Vanilla is PCI-E, so if it doesn't have integrated graphics, PCI-E would be best. But if I can pick up a cheapy AGP card for them for the difference between the AGP mobo and the PCI-E mobo, thats fine too.
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ASUS P5L-MX Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945G Micro ATX $75.99

The Newegg reviews have some comments about overclocking. It seems to lack a PCI lock... but that user also mentioned an FSB of 300MHz... if that's based on a 200MHz stock CPU, then it's good enough for you; if that's with a 266MHz stock CPU, then it's a problem. Looking further (although the FSB is listed as 800/1066, it DOES support the 356 despite it's FSB of 533, according to the ASUS website)
    
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*has never owned a board without a PCI lock*

Would I kill anything in the PCI slot? How would I "go around" that? There is a wireless NIC that needs to use one of the PCI slots and I don't want to really risk it going caput.
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That is a problem then. This seems to be an issue with many of those mATX boards with onboard graphics.

I would almost suggest the AM2 version of your Biostart tForce with a bottom line AM2 CPU, but then you exceed the budget.

Still diggin' this is not an easy one
    
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Originally Posted by Chozart View Post
That is a problem then. This seems to be an issue with many of those mATX boards with onboard graphics.

I would almost suggest the AM2 version of your Biostart tForce with a bottom line AM2 CPU, but then you exceed the budget.

Still diggin' this is not an easy one
I would go AM2 or S939, but he already has all the parts from his other rig. He bought an HP and got a virus, gave it to someone to fix, got it back with a dead mobo.

If I go AM2 for him he'd need a new CPU as well.
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Yeah, that's what I meant. I just mentioned it because I know your tForce is a good overclocker But again, Mobo + CPU > Budget

Looking into this one now:
ASUS P5RD2-VM Socket T (LGA 775) ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 Micro ATX $68.99
    
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Hey Chozart (or anyone else) - how's this look?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128316

Its SLI, which wouldn't be needed, no IGP, and at the very top of the budget, but its the best I could find so far.

Methinks I shouldn't of learned as much as I can about AMD and leave out Intel.
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Well, nForce chipsets on the Intel platform are lousy overclockers, so say it friendly 10% or 20% overclock if you're very lucky.

I checked the manuals. The first one I listed DOES have a PCI-E lock, and thus a PCI lock also. The second one DOES NOT have a PCI-E lock. Thus, the ASUS P5L-MX seems to be a decent choice for a board with onboard video and basic overclocking functionality, including a PCI(-E) lock.

If you want decent overclocking on the Intel platform, you'd best look at the Intel chipsets

Something like this would be nice (no onboard graphics):
GIGABYTE GA-945PL-S3 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945PL Express $84.99

PS: it would be something.. SLI for grandma's solitaire sessions
    
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