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Nice Setup! wink.gif - I was rather silent in your last thread but I must say this has really inspired me to finally go through with building my own. tongue.gif

I am looking to do something similar. I was wondering given the price difference between WD RED and WD GREEN Drives would you recommend going Red or Green? I am thinking of going with the 3TB Drives of either although I might go with 2TB drives. - More or less whatever gives the better deal in terms of Capacity/Price

Seems like the Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 is definitively the best SAS card in that price point right now.
Going to be building up my server over time so probably starting with 9 or 12TB Storage + 3 TB Parity + 1TB WD Black Cache. Probably add another 6TB when drive prices drop a little more or I have more cash to spare.

From what I have been reading Black seems like the best bet for the cache drive.
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I'm trying to get a norco 4224 in the UK. They're £420 from xcase who are usually quite good. However there's one on ebay that's £239 with a whopping £141 postage. Might settle for a 4220 and loose 4 bays. But it costs almost half as much.

Fortunately your SAS expander cards aren't difficult to find here, and they're pretty cheap.
     
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I'm thinking of building a replica of this system redface.gif. Murlocke, if you had the chance to build one of these today, what things would you change/update?
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Nice Setup! wink.gif - I was rather silent in your last thread but I must say this has really inspired me to finally go through with building my own. tongue.gif
I am looking to do something similar. I was wondering given the price difference between WD RED and WD GREEN Drives would you recommend going Red or Green? I am thinking of going with the 3TB Drives of either although I might go with 2TB drives. - More or less whatever gives the better deal in terms of Capacity/Price
Seems like the Supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 is definitively the best SAS card in that price point right now.
Going to be building up my server over time so probably starting with 9 or 12TB Storage + 3 TB Parity + 1TB WD Black Cache. Probably add another 6TB when drive prices drop a little more or I have more cash to spare.
From what I have been reading Black seems like the best bet for the cache drive.

If I had an unlimited budget i'd go with red drives just because they should be more reliable and are faster. However, green drives fit my budget more.

Western Digital's RMA service is very fast for me (I get replacement drives 1-2 days after filing a request), so I always stick with their drives.
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I'm thinking of building a replica of this system redface.gif. Murlocke, if you had the chance to build one of these today, what things would you change/update?

Overall, I wouldn't change anything.. but I haven't been following unRAID lately and there may be better builds now.

unRAID still has some issues with my setups. I'm 99.9% sure i've fixed the major issues I was having with one of the servers, and it was caused by faulty hardware. I'm sitting at 39 days up-time on both of them with no errors. The main issue I have is parity syncs take way longer than they should. I get about 60MB/s on the newer versions, which takes about 18 hours to complete, when it was about 90-100MB/s on the older versions. This isn't a gamebreaker and will probably be fixed before 5.0 goes final.

I am still unsure if running 3 SAS cards will work on a Windows server because you have to set the cards up as non-bootable in order to get it working correctly. unRAID boots from a USB stick, so it works fine. If you do decide to buy the same systems, make sure you look over the thread, there are a few BIOS changes that are needed. I'd also suggest reading around on the unRAID forums because it will not be a headache free experience for new users.
Edited by Murlocke - 11/20/12 at 4:54pm
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Mmmm so much power... Your my hero...
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Mmmm so much power... You're my hero...

Fixed.
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Just wanted to say thank you for this thread. smile.gif Been using it as a template for my "true" server build. smile.gif
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can i please see a list of the media on them hard drives?
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can i please see a list of the media on them hard drives?

nice try MPAA
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Really Great build man. Its inspiring that you took the plunge on this and went all out thumb.gif


please don't take my questions as criticisms though, I was looking into unraid with some interest. Now, it does seem that the main selling point (given the home environment it is used in) is that data is kept separate on each disc.

this leads me onto a few questions:

First, given single parity, if a drive fails AND there are parity errors how do you know what files have gone on said main failed drive? Do you organise within unraid program or do to decide to put A-D on one drive, E-H on another and then mark each disc with a sticker to say what alphabetical order goes on where ? (would that even be a good idea?)


The standard is 15-20mins for ripping a 30GB 1:1 MKV on DVDfab. That is a LOT of time to re-rip or re-find. On my setup I have 140 purchased titles on 3TB which @ 20mins each works about at a massive 40- 46hrs of time to re-rip .. lets not forget that most of us have work and family time, weekends doing other stuff that 40- 46 hrs could be upto two months (or a massive coffee compound and a soul crushing holiday) re-ripping non stop from dusk till dawn!
Also Dont forget the 20hrs taken Zeroing out a HDD and how long until we see 5TB and 6TB drives, just how long will that take to zero ?? so there's some real time needed to rebuild and renew here

So the other question is, Why not use something with more redundancy and a greater level of error checking? If your controller, mainboard, O/S drive fails with ZFS you too can also recover the information like Unraid you can import a working pool back into a new ZFS build without too many headaches.

My feeling is that as your discs get individually bigger there are many more files and the re-rip times become 80hrs + 30hrs for 1 x 5TB drive failure? so very realistically you could be looking at 100HRS
What about the time differences between copying 30GB over lan to a ZFS server vs unraid speeds per movie too?

for a drive failure / parity errors! when do you call it quits? at what point do you allow for a $10 a month subscription to deliver your movies at 720p and eventually 1080p? ok they wont be Blueray quality for many years but the probability is that the kids and the wife wont notice redface.gif

I still would consider unraid and if it could do two parity drives and a bit more performance i might just be a no brainer for a media server ! for much smaller installations 1 drive is easily enough i think and i would probably run the gauntlet on a 2TB drive loss with 80 movies for example.


as mentioned, exellent build and im not knocking it but you really have pushed the envelope of data size vs redundancy here biggrin.gif


* edit i supose the 3rd question would be if unraid offered x2 parity would you use it?
Edited by phill1978 - 1/5/13 at 9:18am
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