Originally Posted by Kaldari
I always get a chuckle out of the people that don't run A/Vs but "know" everything is fine because they haven't noticed anything.
That's like saying you know your phone isn't tapped because you don't notice anything when you make phone calls. Thaaaat's pretty much the point.
Most malware is written to do its best not to alert the user, else they'll feel inclined to remove it.
I've just posted a response to a similar idea but I must point out the flaw in your reasoning. You may drive without insurance but still know your car hasn't been hit, right? It comes down to knowledge.
So personally I work break fix at a local computer shop, I do everything from upgrading ram to setting up and maintaining the network for local business customers. I do plenty of malware removal, more in depth than just running some scanners, I am doing manual removal as well.
Prior to MSE I ran no AV product. I still ran passive scans, kept an eye on my network traffic, looked for rootkits and the like, never found evidence, not once, of malware of any type. So you can run an OS without AV and
know if you are infected or not. Just because you don't know how to do that doesn't mean everyone is incapable as well.
Originally Posted by XAslanX
I am too as I doubt any of them have heard of Black Shades and what it can do and how easily it is to get infected from just downloading a picture.
I am sorry to break this to you but don't think running an AV program makes you safe. I would say at least half of the computers that come into my store with malware were running active AV at the time. An anti-virus suite is NO guarantee that you will stay safe.
I always have to explain that to people who come into the shop and say, "but I had an anti-virus program, I thought that was supposed to protect me."
Originally Posted by SpykeZ
A buddy and I decided to try and write a brutal rootkit to see what antiviruses were up to the task. The easiest ones we got by were mcafee symentec and norton. The only two we couldn't get passed no matter how well we changed it around was Kaspersky and Nod32. Everything else we were able to get by.
In my opinion Kaspersky is pretty much the best AV on the market. Bar none.Edited by Mygaffer - 7/15/12 at 11:27pm