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Symantec Endpoint hasn't given me a hiccup yet. confused.gif
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Symantec Endpoint hasn't given me a hiccup yet. confused.gif
Are you running XP? Did you install the updae as soon as it came out?

If no to any of these, then you didnt bother to read the title or article.
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From what i have read and heard, Norton has really improved in the past two years. It just sucks that such an update can do so much damage.

I have been using MSE and everything has been all good. I do however miss using NOD32 as a paid AV. thumb.gif
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From what i have read and heard, Norton has really improved in the past two years. It just sucks that such an update can do so much damage.
I have been using MSE and everything has been all good. I do however miss using NOD32 as a paid AV. thumb.gif
This didnt happen for Norton, this happened for Symantec Endpoint Protection. Two different things.
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Again? How many times is this now?
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I don't want to post this every single time, but people still don't get it every single time:

Anyway, my posts from this OCN thread , facts > myths
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Time to dispell those myths:
* Norton is slow and crap
*WRONG*
The latest 2012 version of Norton is actually Fast and it's real-time protection is Very good.
* MSE is good / AVG Free is crap
*Wrong*
According to independent AV Test site AV-test.org, MSE scores very low, while AVG Free was the best free AV tested: http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/test-reports/novdec-2011/
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And to those who say 'common sense':
Quote:
During a presentation/demonstration of HitmanPro on Wednesday afternoon we visited the NU.nl website (www.nu.nl) to explain our UTM ad blocking technology. With millions of visitors each day, NU.nl is one of the most visited websites in The Netherlands. During this demonstration, the website tried to infect us (and all its other visitors) with malware. Our security engineers investigated the infection and it turned out that an exploit on NU.nl was silently installing the Sinowal banking trojan on computers of its visitors. Cybercriminals had somehow been able to steal the login credentials of the CMS. We first informed NU.nl so they could remove the exploit from their web site and prevent further infections.

Security specialist Fox-IT (www.foxit.nl) estimated that over 100,000 computers in The Netherlands were infected with the malware. The cybercriminals released the exploit during lunch hours, which is a peak time for the popular NU.nl news site.

- https://hitmanpro.wordpress.com/
Not to mention we at Overclock.net ourselves has an issue with an ad that was malware affected since the ad company didn't know it was infected.
'Common sense' is far from foolproof.
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Yes, an actual anti-virus.
I thought people knew about computers here....
Knowing the difference between a malware scanner and an antivirus is computing 101.....
The Antivirus offers real-time / zero-day protection. A malware scanner doesn't.
Yes, it's like using a condom instead of using those nasty creams because now you have crabs.
Prevention > treatment.
And yes, I have a hardware router firewall, DMZ on (ok yeah kinda no point with a single section setup but meh), DHCP off (i.e. static IP) real time protection via AV and 'common sense'.
y;'know, layered security. A router firewall for example wouldn't prevent an idiot plugging an infected USB drive would it....
and by the way, a longer passphrase is better than a more complex one, for everything. 8+ characters. An unique sentence is a better passphrase for people to remember as well.
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Google Chrome is much more secure.
- http://www.ivizsecurity.com/pdf/Vulnerabilities%20Browsers.pdf
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people needs to learn what antivirus programs actually do, what features they have, what the features do as well.....
Comodo Firewall's 'Defence +' is a HIPS implementation, so's Google Chrome's tabs are sandboxing.
And what part of 'drive-by malware' don't you get people?
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If you want actual scary numbers:
https://www.securelist.com/en/analysis/204792216/Kaspersky_Security_Bulletin_Statistics_2011
And that's just from systems with Kaspersky AV solutions.....
Or yeah, don't make me laugh with 'common sense' when a website gets hacked and you visit it. Everything looks normal but in the source code...
https://www.securelist.com/en/analysis/204792223/Monthly_Malware_Statistics_February_2012
Honestly cybercrims can hack a website, change nothing but plant an exploit in the source code and get out without even being noticed. Website works and looks normal otherwise. Good luck with 'common sense' in terms of that.
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To add to this not to mention that the bigger threat is now Facebook links and not 'adult entertainment'.

really, MSE is crap, stop using it. Avast and AVG Free are both far better alternatives for freeware AV.
    
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Thanks chinesewiki.

>.>
Just kidding, Chinesekiwi.
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Refusing to use an antivirus is like refusing to use condoms and only sleeping with "good girls" who they "know" are "clean".

In both cases they think they're safe but they end up getting viruses anyway.
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Refusing to use an antivirus is like refusing to use condoms and only sleeping with "good girls" who they "know" are "clean".
In both cases they think they're safe but they end up getting viruses anyway.

More like using an anti-virus is like using that condom you left in your wallet for the past three years. It might help until it breaks.

Nevermind. Forget the crappy analogies. Anti-virus programs aren't the be all and end all. I don't use a real-time anti-virus. I just have a couple programs like Malwarebytes, superantispyware, and Hitman Pro to do manual scans when I feel like it. Otherwise, I have a fairly secure set up in that I use a standard account instead of the administrator account and I use built in Windows policies that blocks all executables from running unless they're in C:\Windows or C:\Program Files. That alone stops 99.9% of drive-bys or other unauthorized programs from trying to run.

If not, there are other great forms of security that, in my opinion, are far more reliable than anti-virus like SandboxIE. Of course, you could also use it in combination with an anti-virus.
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