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Ok, everyone else has given good advice, and keeping a cool head is a requirement when dealing with computers. Getting mad clouds your judgement, and your senses. If you feel your blood presure on the rise, take a break, come back later....sometimes a fresh perspective will allow you to see things you missed.....like a capacitor hanging up the mounting of the heatsink, or a wire not connected right, ect......

Are you at stock settings with this CPU?? If so, you should immediatly send this CPU back for an RMA. 1.35 is the maximum voltage allowed by Intel, the CPU should run much lower than that. My 6700 can run at stock speeds with 1.08v.......if you are overclocking still, stop.....reset everything to stock and check your temps.....once you get your temps worked out at stock, you can overclock.
Good advice.

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Well how do you go about sending something back for an RMA? I mean the computer is new but its not brand new anymore. I've had the CPU for alittle over a month. In fact I ordered it on Newegg on 10/7/06 and recieved it on 10/11/06 is it to late?

Because I am pretty sure my PC would never boot at 1.08v. Now when I tried booting at 1.20 it was overclocked from 2.4 to 2.8. But also it wont even boot up at 2.8 when the voltage is set at 1.26 I know this for sure. Maybe my CPU is just messed up.
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One thing about your as5, how much are you putting on? I don't see that you say how much you used. You really can mess up the temps by putting too much. More is not better.
And why do I keep hearing people say put a "pea" sized dab? That's way too much man, a pea is freakin huge compared to the recommended rice sized dot. That's several times I've heard people say that now, and it's so wrong, a "pea" sized dot is like 20 times more than you need, or should have. Arctic silver's instructions have changed anyway for the dual cores, check here http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appi..._dual_wcap.pdf and follow this. Thx to Thumper for that one, I didn't even know they change the instructions until he said in another thread. I have my 6400 and 6600 with the grain of rice method, guess I'll change it later and see if temps drop thx Thumper .

Or do the "grain of rice" method, but just don't put too much it will hurt your temps, not help them. Also, when you're cleaning off the old paste (and you need to do this each time you reseat your hsf), clean it thoroughly, then when you think it's clean....clean it again. Then reapply as5.



I think it's also very likely, like these guys already said, your cpu or hsf just isn't flat. I have seen this myself quite a few times, on cpu's and BT's. I've lapped four different BT's now, and I can tell you they are not always the same. Some are deffinitely worse than others. One of the four was almost flat and didn't take much to make it perfect. One was really concaved, I almost couldn't believe how much. The other two weren't awful, but nowhere near flat.
Also with cpu's, a couple of the one's I've lapped were pretty dang concave in the middle. So you can try RMA'ing or selling your cpu and getting another, but just be aware if it's just that you have a crappy BT, nothing will change. I agree with what was said about lapping your BT first, or changing coolers to see if it's the problem.
    
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I appreciate all your help guys and I am completely planning on changing the cooler this weekend and checking how much AS5 I used and all of this. But IF it is the CPU how do you get a RMA and have I had it to long? As I said I ordered it on 10/7 and recieved it on 10/11 will Newegg honor this and send me a new one?

Another quick question, how much thermal paste to apply really confuses me to death. Everyone says use all these small ammounts but on the Intel Heatsink itself that comes stock with the CPU if you look on it it has three think stripes of thermal paste. How come they use so much if thats wrong?
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I appreciate all your help guys and I am completely planning on changing the cooler this weekend and checking how much AS5 I used and all of this. But IF it is the CPU how do you get a RMA and have I had it to long? As I said I ordered it on 10/7 and recieved it on 10/11 will Newegg honor this and send me a new one?

Another quick question, how much thermal paste to apply really confuses me to death. Everyone says use all these small ammounts but on the Intel Heatsink itself that comes stock with the CPU if you look on it it has three think stripes of thermal paste. How come they use so much if thats wrong?


Click on the link I put, and follow the directions. It tells you exactly how to do it, and how much. Don't worry about what's on a stock hs, it has nothing to do with as5 or how much to put. Trust me, it's the manufacturer saying to do it this way, they know. Not sure why you're so confused by this , just put how much Artic Silver says to. Don't listen to people saying to put a "pea" sized dot, or to spread it around. Neither is correct, again....just follow the directions and you'll be fine. You only need very little as5 to do the job, more and your hurting your temps.

Think of it this way, maybe this will clear it up for you a little. You want the copper of your hsf to do the work. The as5 is only there to fill in little microscopic gaps and such, to compensate for imperfections in the surfaces. In a perfect world, if your cpu surface and your hsf were perfectly flat, and had no microscopic gaps (impossible really, just making a point) you wouldn't need or want as5. So basically when you think about it, less the better. To me it makes no sense to spread it all around or put too much. I think alot of people have misconceptions about as5, like it's some kind of magical stuff, that makes the heat transfer better than copper on copper would. NO, it won't, all it does is put a bandaid between them, so they can pretend touch each other. If your surfaces were really perfect, you wouldn't even want it on there, again impossible no matter what grit sand paper you use.

I think you should see about some other things here, before you even consider RMA'ing your cpu. I have a feeling you'd get a new cpu, and see the same thing. Up to you, but don't jump the gun before you troubleshoot. It's a real good way to waste alot of your time, if you don't troubleshoot.
    
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If you're still giving it away, i'll take it off your hands.
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Peasized is too big. Put a grain of rice on it and spread it around with your finger (that's inside a plastic bag) so that it's a nearly transparent film on the cpu If you can't get it to spread across the entire IHS that thin with a grain of rice (highly unlikely), then apply a TINY bit more on the bare spots and spread that the same. When you seat the HSF, make sure you twist the HSF slightly after you put it on with -a little- downward pressure.
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Peasized is too big. Put a grain of rice on it and spread it around with your finger (that's inside a plastic bag) so that it's a nearly transparent film on the cpu If you can't get it to spread across the entire IHS that thin with a grain of rice (highly unlikely), then apply a TINY bit more on the bare spots and spread that the same. When you seat the HSF, make sure you twist the HSF slightly after you put it on with -a little- downward pressure.
Well you go ahead and do it that way if you want. I think he should do like the manufacturer says to. And they never have said to spread it around. I don't know where people get that method, it works but it's not correct.
Don't spread it, just do it like Arctic Silver says to. It's easier anyway, and to spread it is a complete waste of time, the hsf does that itself through pressure.
    
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ill take it *jk* man idk why its running that hawt...
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