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Don't think so, but if you want to check out the LCD testing for Nexus 7 vs Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 here it is from the Anandtech review: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
















Tab Pro 8.4 have superior grayscale, but Nexus 7 2013 is better in every other testing category according to this LCD test.

Cool but with my experience, I don't really trust it.

3 units I've had had all different screens.. the blacks look different too and I notice it easily since I use the device in pitch dark.

There's going to be an average I guess but still.

I guess another reason why I don't exactly trust it is that I believe each display is slightly different out of the box.. did Anand calibrate each of those before running those tests aka taking full advantage for accurate color capabilities? Does Android even offer that? I can only tweak contrast with Screen Adjuster, not gamma.

I think there's some variance that'd make those kinds of reviews (screen portions) not as indicative.
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Cool but with my experience, I don't really trust it.

3 units I've had had all different screens.. the blacks look different too and I notice it easily since I use the device in pitch dark.

There's going to be an average I guess but still.

I guess another reason why I don't exactly trust it is that I believe each display is slightly different out of the box.. did Anand calibrate each of those before running those tests aka taking full advantage for accurate color capabilities? Does Android even offer that? I can only tweak contrast with Screen Adjuster, not gamma.

I think there's some variance that'd make those kinds of reviews (screen portions) not as indicative.

Gamma tweaking is not possible without a custom kernel.

Maybe these results are not going predict what your display will perform in the same test, but they are still the most thorough tablet screen reviews you can find online imo.
Edited by sherlock - 3/24/14 at 8:36am
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Settle down guys. Robilar, to be fair, your hatred for these devices (albeit well founded based on your experiences) has been VERY well documented in this thread, and is the vocal minority.

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Settle down guys. Robilar, to be fair, your hatred for these devices (albeit well founded based on your experiences) has been VERY well documented in this thread, and is the vocal minority.

Fair enough but I would never describe it as hatred. If I hated the device, I would not have gone to the time and effort to buy more than one (if any) of both the first and second gen versions.

I really wanted it to work, I've owned a lot of tablets and really like the 7" form factor. The Nexus 7 is by far the most bloat free tablet I have ever owned (without requiring rooting).

Given how many happy owners there are, it seems I have had a string of bad luck, not uncommon when buying technology.

If I had gotten one good one, I would have been happy to share those experiences as well.

What I won't do though is gloss over a devices' flaws. There are too many people on this and other forums that because they have invested in the ecosystem (or drank the koolaid or whatever), they refuse to admit that their device has an issue. This is by no means unique to tablets; the ATI vs. Nvidia wars that regularly get spawned here are a great example of that.

I expect many owners here got flaw free devices, just wish I was one of them...
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Fair enough but I would never describe it as hatred. If I hated the device, I would not have gone to the time and effort to buy more than one (if any) of both the first and second gen versions.

I really wanted it to work, I've owned a lot of tablets and really like the 7" form factor. The Nexus 7 is by far the most bloat free tablet I have ever owned (without requiring rooting).

Given how many happy owners there are, it seems I have had a string of bad luck, not uncommon when buying technology.

If I had gotten one good one, I would have been happy to share those experiences as well.

What I won't do though is gloss over a devices' flaws. There are too many people on this and other forums that because they have invested in the ecosystem (or drank the koolaid or whatever), they refuse to admit that their device has an issue. This is by no means unique to tablets; the ATI vs. Nvidia wars that regularly get spawned here are a great example of that.

I expect many owners here got flaw free devices, just wish I was one of them...

I have a friend that in the timeframe of 2 weeks bought 6 Asus laptops ranging from 600 euros up to a 1800 euros ROG laptop, all of them with issues. DOA graphics card, constant bluescreens, etc etc etc.
I worked at a shop where we sold Asus laptops, arround 3 per day. Rare was the laptop that was DOA.
My point is: You have bad experiences, but I personally consider you one of the very unlucky few and wouldn't take what you said as a major flag to not buy a Nexus 7.
I bought 3 of them, 2012 and no issues. Although I wanted to upgrade to the 2013 version but saw that they were a gamble with their issues and stayed away from them.

Not having issues doesn't mean its flaw free tho, I hate the dynamic contrast or w,e on the Tegra 3 chip. Its bugged and makes the screen look like crap sometimes, I got it fixed tho.
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Fair enough but I would never describe it as hatred. If I hated the device, I would not have gone to the time and effort to buy more than one (if any) of both the first and second gen versions.

I really wanted it to work, I've owned a lot of tablets and really like the 7" form factor. The Nexus 7 is by far the most bloat free tablet I have ever owned (without requiring rooting).

Given how many happy owners there are, it seems I have had a string of bad luck, not uncommon when buying technology.

If I had gotten one good one, I would have been happy to share those experiences as well.

What I won't do though is gloss over a devices' flaws. There are too many people on this and other forums that because they have invested in the ecosystem (or drank the koolaid or whatever), they refuse to admit that their device has an issue. This is by no means unique to tablets; the ATI vs. Nvidia wars that regularly get spawned here are a great example of that.

I expect many owners here got flaw free devices, just wish I was one of them...

And this is why I generally avoid the GPU section of this website, outside of clubs. TBH, though, I have seen a decreasing amount of these lately...at least in random threads, that is.
 
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Gamma tweaking is not possible without a custom kernel.

Maybe these results are not going predict what your display will perform in the same test, but they are still the most thorough tablet screen reviews you can find online imo.

You're right. It's a good idea to mine data from several reviews of the display and I guess, make a sort of average.

I've had some pretty bad taste after swapping my VITA 5 times with the display.. but that's OLED xD
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You seem to have this attitude in a few threads now. You've got to relax, friend.
Hmm, would you like to provide proof.gif that I'm the stiff? I actually still regard myself as "Captain Obvious".
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Also, Nexus 7 2013 is the only device that displaymate recommends, next to Kindle HDX and Apple Ipad Retina. The device is stellar and I'm not going to act all nonsense like some other person just because one pixel got bad. It is physics, you cannot fight your way around it. Other than that, the execution that summoned this device is exceptional. No other device has less light bleedthough, believe me. I know when I say this is the only "Low Temperature Polysilicon" display currently available. It is one notch above the IGZO panels that are found in Apple Ipad's. That 50% power efficiency advantage definitely shows when you use it. I'm yet to find a bright place where the colors wash out.
I will have to applaud Larry Page with the relative ease with which he reflects his image, as Sergey Brin failed to appease the populace about the "Glass". Come on, not many are as humble and successful as he.
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got mine the other day, running rooted stock kit kat.



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