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There are five 970 motherboards that are worth owning, and the M5A97 is one of them. You'll also do well with the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3, the Asrock 970 Extreme 3 or 4, or the Biostar TA970XE. All of them have good enough VRM's to deal with any kind of overclocking you'd want to try; note my 1.1 GHz overclock on an X6 with the TA970XE, and I'm sure I can get more if I try.
If you have a good motherboard, you can probably get just as far on a 955 as you can with a 965BE, but you'll have to do it differently. Because the 955 is locked, you'll have to boost the CPU/NB frequency and cannot change the multiplier. But that's not an issue; just boost the frequency from 200 to 250 and you've got 4 GHz. And that's a better way to overclock than just raising the multiplier, because it improves the performance of the rest of the system, and not just the CPU.
The GTX 480 is a great deal for the money; I'm not an Nvidia fan, but I can't argue with that choice at all.

I really want to get my Phenom to 4 GHz if possible.
And the GTX 480 seems to be a really nice choice for its price.
I read alot about Radeon drivers not being the greatest so i'm just gonna go NVidia on this one.
No qualms against AMD what-so-ever though! thumb.gif
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About to 580 levels:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/amd-radeon-hd-7870-ghz-edition-radeon-hd-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/19
And I don't think Anand adds any voltage with Afterburner, so that is probably with stock voltage for the 7850.
Woah nice!
Might just go with a 7850 if it really performs that well!
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Dude, get the Phenom2 and a bad@ss board and you are good to go. I could probably get to 4.2 but I don't really need it.
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Eh... kinda. It will raise the Northbridge speed, which is good, but you'll have to keep an eye on CPU and CPU-NB voltages, keep HT as close to 2000 as possible, and balance the RAM multi against the FSB to keep somewhat close to stock, else you also have to play with RAM timings and voltages as well. Also, the multi isn't fully locked, you just can't raise the multi higher then stock. You can still move all of them down as needed, which is good considering RAM and HT.
Really, there's no reason the 955 can't OC to a Deneb's max (3.9 - 4.2 range), you just have to take more into consideration is all. If you are good with doing the math and watching the numbers, the 955 is perfectly fine. And, of course, if you find yourself in need of OC help, thats kinda what people specialize in here. tongue.gif

The RAM and HT settings are handled by the BIOS anyway, they don't have anything to do with the CPU and whether or not it's locked. You can lower the CPU multiplier, but I didn't bother mentioning that because there's not much reason why someone would want to lower the CPU multiplier on a system where they're trying to overclock to the max. But if you wanted to try to max out the CPU/NB clock, yes, you can lower the multiplier on a locked Phenom II.

All I had to do was lower the RAM multiplier and the reference clock on the HT, and it's scaled just fine. And it's going to be a lot simpler on a 955, with a multiplier of 16, than it is on a 1035T, stuck at 13. I'd certainly opt for a 965BE if I could get one at the same price as a 955, but if not, a 955 will do the same things with a little more tinkering.
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Definitely the Phenom. I have one now, and it is awesome. It'll OC to 4GHz in safe voltages. Get a Hyper 212+ or equivalent, though for those speeds.
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I have a two year old phenom ii x6 1090t Overclocked to, stable 4.2 ghz. My mobo is an 890fxa by msi and it works well. I I'm sure you have could get them for a good price now.

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hey sorry for the late replay, the 7000 series OC like beasts. and if you shop arround you can find one for 215 with mir and get some free games.
really its the way to go.
yes the gt 480 can hit stock 580 speed when OC but you will need good cooling for that and the power draw in the end will not be worth same 15 to 30$ .


p.s also if you ever consider going dual gpus the 7000 series will get better performence than 2 gtx 480.
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