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Poll Results: Which Case?

 
  • 25% (2)
    Corsair Carbide 500R (Black)
  • 37% (3)
    NZXT Phantom 410 (Black)
  • 37% (3)
    Antec Eleven Hundred
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post #1 of 11
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I'm having a little problem to choose a case from these three:

1. Corsair Carbide 500R (black)

2. NZXT Phantom 410 (black)

3. Antec Eleven Hundred


The reason that i have such a problem choosing is because, well... these are all good cases for my planned build (which is yet to come tongue.gif) and it is hard for me to chose the advantages of one over the other (or the disadvantages).

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the Corsair case is a well know quality case and has an elegant looks but it has a few cons, it has no dust filtering on the side (which is necessary because of the side 200mm fan) and it has no window (a con compared to others). additionally it has some WC potential but it is tight and not that great. (but is enough for my need anyway)
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The NZXT case has a great look, a side window (and an intake) great build quality also but it has no filters (only a PSU filter, which doesn't look all that great) which is unfortunate because the only fan filters that i can buy are the Scythe 120 filters (link). additionally it has a decent WC potential (4 to 5 120 worth of rad space which is enough and more)
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The Antec case has a great look also ( i know i mention this a lot), filters everywhere (except the side intakes, but its understandable), has a lot of little touches of convenience (the fan mounting which requires only 2 screws, the PSU filter which comes out from the side and more).
but it has no real intakes (but i will be buying additional fans anyway, so no real problem, and there is a front filter) and not a conventional WC potential but is possible (it is possible to mount a thin 240 rad with fans on the HDD fan mounts and a 120 rad at the back, and maybe possible to mount a 200mm rad at the top if a different fan will be there.)



So you can see my struggles with taking a choice. Can the OCN Community help me decide ? (if i am missing any pros/cons of any case mention them please)
(btw, price is not a pro/con in this debate because ill be adding additional fans anyway and filters if needed and these are all similarly priced, or close to it. Additionally i will probably not WC, but i love to have the option.)

500R (Click to show)
Phantom 410 (Click to show)
1100 (Click to show)

Edited by RKTGX95 - 7/18/12 at 12:32pm
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post #2 of 11
You can put 2 x 120mm for intakes in the Antec 1100 if you are worried about it. I think that is the best case out of those three. That Corsair isn't one of my favorites by them and the NZXT isn't very attractive at all.
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post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by losttsol View Post

You can put 2 x 120mm for intakes in the Antec 1100 if you are worried about it. I think that is the best case out of those three. That Corsair isn't one of my favorites by them and the NZXT isn't very attractive at all.

i did mentioned that i will be getting more (aka MOAR) fans in any scenario, so that wasn't a problem at all from the start. and the NZXT Case has it's design and looks, but every case does.

btw, will it help if i will describe my (future tongue.gif) build setup ?
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post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by RKTGX95 View Post

btw, will it help if i will describe my (future tongue.gif) build setup ?

.... you should have started the post with that info:D

a number of factors goes into the decision of selecting the proper case for your purpose. what form factor, purpose of the machine, are you transferring any older components into the new machine, what size are the components, are you going liquid or air cooling, are you going open or closed liquid system if you do decide to go liquid. etc....

just because a case has a slot for a 200mm fan does NOT mean a 200mm radiator will fit in there... what kind of thermal load are you looking at and does liquid even make sense in your build... too many unanswered questions to give proper recommendation for you.
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

.... you should have started the post with that info:D
a number of factors goes into the decision of selecting the proper case for your purpose. what form factor, purpose of the machine, are you transferring any older components into the new machine, what size are the components, are you going liquid or air cooling, are you going open or closed liquid system if you do decide to go liquid. etc....
just because a case has a slot for a 200mm fan does NOT mean a 200mm radiator will fit in there... what kind of thermal load are you looking at and does liquid even make sense in your build... too many unanswered questions to give proper recommendation for you.

firstly, i am building a completely new rig with no old parts. (my pc right now is sad)
secondly, its a gaming rig with will include these main parts:
i5 3570k (overclocked obviously)
ASUS Maximus V Formula
HD 7970 (not sure about the gpu yet, but whatever gpu it will be it will be overclocked)

it is not that i am 100% sure that i will WC, but it is nice to have the expandability of it. just like choosing the PSU that has the headroom for a second gpu even if i won't have one.
and according to this thread (which i made just in case not long ago) it seems that a 200mm rad might fit if the fan is replaced.


i hope that i have answered (some of) your questions.
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i voted for corsair 500r, um but maybe look at fractal arc midi?
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Originally Posted by RKTGX95 View Post

firstly, i am building a completely new rig with no old parts. (my pc right now is sad)
secondly, its a gaming rig with will include these main parts:
i5 3570k (overclocked obviously)
ASUS Maximus V Formula
HD 7970 (not sure about the gpu yet, but whatever gpu it will be it will be overclocked)
it is not that i am 100% sure that i will WC, but it is nice to have the expandability of it. just like choosing the PSU that has the headroom for a second gpu even if i won't have one.
and according to this thread (which i made just in case not long ago) it seems that a 200mm rad might fit if the fan is replaced.
i hope that i have answered (some of) your questions.

1. are you absolutely set on getting ATX? have you considered mATX? maximus v gene is just as powerful of a overclocker and can support SLi/Xfire. what i see happening alot is people go and buy a HUGE case like a cosmos 2 and then realize "damn this thing is huge where am i going to put it?" biggrin.gif

2. IF you decide to go xfire, it will be better if you build it as a xfire from the beginning. 95% of the people do NOT upgrade to 2 GPU after the rig is already built because they see the new cards coming down the road and realize it makes sense just to upgrade to the new card then to deal with the noise and heat of 2 cards.

3. as far as liquid cooling. there is really very little reason to go liquid aside from vanity point of view (unless you are going for triple xfire or more) most of the time liquid would actually be louder then a quality air cooler. most people mistakenly think that liquid provides better cooling... it doesn't. it just offers the flexibility of transporting the heat elsewhere so be cooled by larger radiators. the actual cooling is still done by fans (often louder fans due to the increased static pressure required by radiators)

4. IF you are absolutely sure you will go with liquid route, then you should decide if you want the headache of an open loop? or the convenience of a closed loop. to get any kind of thermal advantage from liquid, you pretty much need to go open loop. however, there are alot of headaches and costs associated with open loop that you should look into before deciding that route.

until you've sat down and considered these factors, you really are just throwing $ away because "generally speaking" a good liquid case doesn't do very well as a air case, and a good air case require quite abit of modding to get liquid in there. smile.gif

with all that said, I agree with the above poster regarding the arc midi smile.gif good budget case that are very open to possibilities. kinda like a jack of all trades and master of none type of case. biggrin.gif
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

1. are you absolutely set on getting ATX? have you considered mATX? maximus v gene is just as powerful of a overclocker and can support SLi/Xfire. what i see happening alot is people go and buy a HUGE case like a cosmos 2 and then realize "damn this thing is huge where am i going to put it?" biggrin.gif
2. IF you decide to go xfire, it will be better if you build it as a xfire from the beginning. 95% of the people do NOT upgrade to 2 GPU after the rig is already built because they see the new cards coming down the road and realize it makes sense just to upgrade to the new card then to deal with the noise and heat of 2 cards.
3. as far as liquid cooling. there is really very little reason to go liquid aside from vanity point of view (unless you are going for triple xfire or more) most of the time liquid would actually be louder then a quality air cooler. most people mistakenly think that liquid provides better cooling... it doesn't. it just offers the flexibility of transporting the heat elsewhere so be cooled by larger radiators. the actual cooling is still done by fans (often louder fans due to the increased static pressure required by radiators)
4. IF you are absolutely sure you will go with liquid route, then you should decide if you want the headache of an open loop? or the convenience of a closed loop. to get any kind of thermal advantage from liquid, you pretty much need to go open loop. however, there are alot of headaches and costs associated with open loop that you should look into before deciding that route.
until you've sat down and considered these factors, you really are just throwing $ away because "generally speaking" a good liquid case doesn't do very well as a air case, and a good air case require quite abit of modding to get liquid in there. smile.gif
with all that said, I agree with the above poster regarding the arc midi smile.gif good budget case that are very open to possibilities. kinda like a jack of all trades and master of none type of case. biggrin.gif

1. Yes. i know the Gene is a good board but i prefer the Formula (the features) and i dont like the look of the mATX Motherboards in cases (i.e. normal cases).
2+3+4. for now i have the budget for a single card, but i might have the means for the second card in a few months so it is nice to have the expandability to it. and likewise the liquid cooling. when you say open loop do you mean a regular custom loop? and if it helps i plan from the start to go on a Antec Kuhler 920 and then i will consider the WC loop. (you are right about the problems with a WC though, expecially for me because i do not live in the US which means expensive shipping and long shipping times)

from what i have understood, all of the above cases are great for air cooling and are capable for WC. i know the arc midi is a good case, but i personally dont like it.
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post #9 of 11
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Bumpity biggrin.gif
i really need the help of the community on this. (not that i wan't to rush/pressure you but i'm buying my rig next week)

i really have a hard time deciding between these 3 cases (and im leaning towards the 410 and the 1100 more than the 500r)
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Bumpity biggrin.gif
i really need the help of the community on this. (not that i wan't to rush/pressure you but i'm buying my rig next week)
i really have a hard time deciding between these 3 cases (and im leaning towards the 410 and the 1100 more than the 500r)
Definitely the 1100 if you can mod out the "lite brite" side panel fan mounts with an acrylic glass.
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