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post #1 of 21
7/18/12 at 6:44pm
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Finally decided to build my own gaming computer as i have constantly had bad service from buying from manufacturers. I have done a bit of research already but really having a hard time choosing parts as even with reading i seem to be getting confused on what exactly to buy. I am planning on using this computer for gaming on high settings mostly FPS or MMORPGs. The limit needs to be around 700 too 800 dollars a little over is no biggy but probably $850 total not counting shipping is the max i can go. I also seem really confused on processors and motherboards. While it would be easy just to follow newegg and just get best rated of the either intel or amd i am curious as what would be better in my position. Seems most people think intel is best bang for your buck but i know sometimes others say amd is best depending on what you want. Just need help with that and with the parts listed below. I don't need a monitor and the OS needs to be included in the price. I thank you for any help you can give me even if its more reading as i really want to get into this but a lot of information to swallow in the short time i have to build this computer.

Case + Power Supply Combo Deal: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.995290

Hard Drive: Seagate Constellation ES ST500NM0011 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

OS: Windows 7 64 bit

Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

DVD drive: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM

These totaled are $663.95

Please feel free to critique anything i just really need the advice of anything you can give me. This is what just seems good to me. Thanks again for any help you can give me.
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post #2 of 21
7/18/12 at 6:57pm
How about this instead:
AMD Phenom ii 965 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
8gb ddr3 1600mhz Samsung 30nm (the type that oc's really well!) $47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
MSI TwinFrozr ii Radeon HD 7850 $240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663
WD Caviar Blue 1tb HDD $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767
Win7 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Rosewill Challenger $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
Rosewill Green series 530W 80Plus PSU $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199

Total: $812
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post #3 of 21
7/18/12 at 7:16pm
With an $800 dollar build I would lean towards AMD for a CPU. Lots of great choices out there in the 125-150 dollar range for a CPU from AMD -- can't really go wrong with a Phenom or Bulldozer (8120 if you feel like shopping around - 8150 will be too expensive). If you had another $100 then I would suggest the Intel i5 2500k processor, but spening ~225 on a CPU with only 850 to spend is pushing it. I think a better option would be to spend a little less on the CPU, and a little more on a graphics card.

If you don't plan on going SLI/xfire (2 video cards - and you won't with an initial $800 build) then I would agree that the gigabyte 970A motherboards are a great choice (I'm really liking gigabyte products lately - just picked up a gigabyte 560ti 448 core). Just realize that the 970A boards only have 1 16x PCIe slot, and do not support nvidia's SLI (I believe they support xfire for ATI graphics cards in 16x + 4x xfire mode). In short, it's not a board that will allow you to upgrade to 2 graphics cards down the road, if that's something you think you might be interested in.

The CPU pooperscooper suggested is great for the price, or I would also suggest an FX-8120 if you can find one for ~150. If you can't get one at that price them I would stick with the 965 chip and put the rest into a graphics card.
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post #4 of 21
7/18/12 at 7:21pm
id up your budget if possible $100 for a intel cpu, also i would wait for windows 8 and the gtx 660 to come out.
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post #5 of 21
7/18/12 at 7:26pm
Yeah I would go with a 965BE; it performs very well in my rig. For the motherboard maybe a Gigabyte UD3. The rest of your build looks pretty good except I would suggest buying a lower end hdd than the one you picked and using the extra on a ssd. You can get 128 gb samsung ssd for $80 when its on sale. Also I would suggest getting a $50-80 case and then buy a high end corsair or antec psu. Hope this helps.
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post #6 of 21
7/18/12 at 7:37pm
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Yeah I would go with a 965BE; it performs very well in my rig. For the motherboard maybe a Gigabyte UD3. The rest of your build looks pretty good except I would suggest buying a lower end hdd than the one you picked and using the extra on a ssd. You can get 128 gb samsung ssd for $80 when its on sale. Also I would suggest getting a $50-80 case and then buy a high end corsair or antec psu. Hope this helps.

Excellent point. I would even suggest something as small as a 60GB SSD to dedicate to your OS (you can probably find one for ~$50USD) and spending a little less on a traditional HDD. I admit I pretty much ignored SSDs until a few months ago, and I was blown away by how much better they are than traditional HDDs. I didn't want to spend a lot on a SSD, so I bought an OCZ solid3 60gb SSD ($60 CDN on newegg) just to load windows 7 on, and boy was I blown away. My boot time was cut in half (at least), and windows just seems to run a lot smoother. I don't know if there would be much of a benefit to have music/movies/games on a SSD (I could be totally wrong), but the difference is night and day with windows 7 on a SSD.
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post #7 of 21
7/18/12 at 7:40pm
Another option for a CPU would be an FX-6100. They are 150CDN on newegg.ca with a $15 dollar promo code right now. Not sure if newegg.com has the same deal - I would assume so.
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post #8 of 21
7/18/12 at 7:48pm
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How about this instead: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
AMD Phenom ii 965 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727
GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519
8gb ddr3 1600mhz Samsung 30nm (the type that oc's really well!) $47
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096
MSI TwinFrozr ii Radeon HD 7850 $240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127663
WD Caviar Blue 1tb HDD $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767
Win7 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
Rosewill Challenger $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153
Rosewill Green series 530W 80Plus PSU $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199
Total: $812
The cpu I chose is pretty cheap, performs well, and can overclock like crazy.
The mobo I chose has an 8+2 power phase with heatsinked vrms, and it has the ability to overclock very well.
The 7850 is the cheapest good performing card at 1080 res, it is the msi overclocked so it will be even better, and not to mention it has the twin frozr heatsink to keep it cool.
The ram I chose is some of the best overclocking ram out there. (People have gotten it to 2400mhz+)
The HDD I chose is a good price to space ratio, and I have it, no complaints.
The case is a bit cheaper, but it will get the job done. and besides, why waste all of your money on a fancy case when you could have a kicking rig inside?
The psu is a pretty good one on the budget, and it'll get the job done.

I just thought I would explain my choices...
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7/18/12 at 7:51pm
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Another option for a CPU would be an FX-6100. They are 150CDN on newegg.ca with a $15 dollar promo code right now. Not sure if newegg.com has the same deal - I would assume so.
i am pretty sure the 965 beats the 6100 in a lot of tests...
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