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Hey everyone, ive been having a few temp problems lately.
I have a Amd 4200 64 x2 with a stock fan, and i seem 2 be getting really high readings while my PC is idle, and when i go on the net; am scared to play games! My cpu originally would have a temperature of maybe 30C while idle, max 40 when gaming or so, so i decided 2 overclock it with Asus AI Booster, but the temperature went up dramatically, 50C when idle. Because of this i quickly reset everything to default in Ai Booster, and uninstalled it. However, my temperature on Speedfan is alwways around 51C, even though i dont have my pc overclocked anymore. Any help on how to fix this? (ps, since uninstalling it i reinstalled cool n quiet, and tht does nothing)
post #2 of 18
After you run awhile and get it warm, reboot, and go into your Bios and check the temp in Hardware Monitor. That will be the most accurate reading you can get. You haven't filled in your hardware specs so it's hard to say how to help you. What's your mobo?
    
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Well, as much as I hate to say it, it sounds as though you may have damaged something, that is IF that temp is accurate. You should do as George said and check the temp in the BIOS. That will be the most accurate reading. IF it is showing a lower temp, then its more than likely a software problem, perhaps something with the AMD drivers. If the temp is still high, you may have damaged either the temp sensor for the core, or worse yet the core itself. In this case, you would probably have to get another CPU.

IF you did damage the CPU, I have another socket AM2 dual-core 4200+ that I could sell you. Get your sys specs filled out and keep me up to date on this. Good luck!
    
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oh yeah, sry, forgot about my specs I have a:
Asus a8n Deluxe 939 socket
2 gig DDR corsair ram
Geforce 7800gt
Maxtor 120 gig HD
450 PSW
4 case fans
Yeah, bios temperatures seem to be pretty high, around the same as in speed fan :S
I was looking over my system, and it seems tht the program nvsvc32.exe is putting huge amounts of pressure on the CPU, ridiculous amounts in fact, could this be the source of the problem?
Thx guys
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Well, as much as I hate to say it, it sounds as though you may have damaged something, that is IF that temp is accurate. You should do as George said and check the temp in the BIOS. That will be the most accurate reading. IF it is showing a lower temp, then its more than likely a software problem, perhaps something with the AMD drivers. If the temp is still high, you may have damaged either the temp sensor for the core, or worse yet the core itself. In this case, you would probably have to get another CPU.

IF you did damage the CPU, I have another socket AM2 dual-core 4200+ that I could sell you. Get your sys specs filled out and keep me up to date on this. Good luck!

No nothing is damaged.

Anyway the fact for this reading could be the following :

1. Program to probe misread
2. Heatsink not fully seated onto CPU IHS.
3. Thermal compound used is not good or has gotten old and cannot function properly.
4. Bios needs updating.

Now to get a proper reading of your CPu;s temp its always best to go into the BIOS as that will most definately and usually will give you the correct reading. However here are times when it wont due to the following.

1. Bios temp Diode damaged/Faulty
2. Bios needs updating.

Now when it comes to the heatsink make sure its fully seated onto your CPU with some fresh thermal compound used such as Arctic silver 5. However you will need to clean off the old compound off the CPU and bottom of heatsink using a 90-99% alcohol based substance..
post #6 of 18
Enterprise1701:
I had just assumed that he damaged something due to the fact that when he dropped the clock speeds back to stock, the temperature remained the same. I dont understand how thermal compound could be the culprit for that high of temps just from too high of an OC only run for a very brief period of time. Especially since he was not having temperature problems prior to the brief period of the oc.

T-K:
I hope that you didnt take my last post the wrong way... I was not trying to scare you into thinking that you blew your proc. simply so I could sell you one! I dont claim to know everything, but my cousin (who lives with me) knows quite a bit, and those were some suggestions/opinions of his and mine.

- If I were you I'd just look around the net and see if anyone has ever had a similar problem (Google Away!) always check other forums, they are a great source of info... if all else fails you could always contact AMD/Asus Tech.Support --> that is IF your processor/mobo are no longer under warranty, since most manufacturers wont accept responsibility for a faulty/damaged part if it was tampered with (ex. Overclocked.) depending on the part (some parts are made to be oc'd, thus it wont void a warranty, usually high-end mobo's & processors).

Though you should definetly do what Enterprise suggested, and remove that stock heatsink/fan and replace the thermal compound. If you need guidance, there are some great video's of thermal compound application in the gallery section here at overclock.net. It is always best to start at the easiest/cheapest solution first.

:: Also, that program that you mentioned is the Nvidia chipset control program I do believe. I could be mistaken, but I remember when I had my Asus board with a nforce4 chipset and I remember seeing that program constantly. Who knows, perhaps it could be a problem with drivers as I stated? After checking out the heatsink situation, if that doesnt help, try reinstalling some different drivers... my cousin had a problem once that he recalls with a via chipset, where his fan speeds would not show in BIOS or in Windows... he reinstalled drivers and voila... problem solved. I hope that I have offered some help...

--> I'm just trying to help, as I said - I dont claim to know anything let alone everything! But I'm not an idiot either ... let me know how things are going! I'd like to see this problem through to the end; regardless of the outcome, a great learning experience!
    
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post #7 of 18
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well, i ended the nvsvc32.exe process, and my pc temperature started going down again, meeting around 40ish if am lucky at idle. But after playing WoW for a while, it quickly shot up to 52C again, and its not like wow is that much of a system hogger tbh. I look into all these things u guys have mentioned ill start by reinstalling drivers and updating my BIOS, and if that doesnt help i mite give AMD a call, and play the stupid card (as my processor is still under warranty).
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nvsvc32.exe is the Nvidia utility, it shouldnt be such a hog, that is odd! Something seems wrong there, sorry, just don't know why it's so demanding! BTW, it's reqired for the vid card.
As you said, drivers, check on a different version for the vid card.
    
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i think its your drivers, just looked in my task manager at nvsvc32 and mine is takin up0% of cpu usage. but 4k memory. Just a lil info for you good luck
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post #10 of 18
Turn off cool and quiet, if its on your fans slow down until the CPU temp is high. If it's off the fans are on full blast all the time (which should be best for the CPU).
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