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7/19/12 at 12:25pm
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Something I've been thinking about. I don't know if it's been done before, but to me, it certainly might be worth looking into.

Since my main rig is already set up for an external and self contained water cooling system, I was thinking this might be "plug and play".

At the heart of the system would be this:



It would be totally self contained and has a "res" already and would hold a great deal of fluid. My only concern would be, would having an "open water" system be bad for the water blocks? Should I add a filter of some kind in the base that would filter the water before it goes into the PC and the water blocks? Do you think that an open system like this would be good enough to cool an i5-2500k and GTX 560Ti without having to add more radiators and fans in the base?
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7/19/12 at 12:32pm
there are easier ways to please your gf/wife thumb.gif
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7/19/12 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by trulsrohk View Post

there are easier ways to please your gf/wife thumb.gif

True, but I've always loved the sound of waterfalls/rain on the roof. It's just so ... relaxing.

I just thought this would be a slick way of killing 2 birds with one stone.

The plumbing part doesn't concern me, I'm just mainly concerned with how "open loop" systems perform and if I would have to factor in a filter for particulates (and what/where to get one) and if I would have to add a radiator and fans.
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7/19/12 at 12:48pm
A) I would not go passive with just a glorified water fountain as the only heat sinkage. Not with performance parts, until you've tested and determined exactly how inadequate it is for the task...because honestly, there's minimal data to go off of.

B) At a minimum you should have a good filter if doing a single loop, because you're going to collect dirt/dust/minerals/ions with water exposed to open house air.

If I were going to try this, and had the coin...I'd use a plate heat exchanger, and do two separate loops. At least initially with a radiator hooked up to the CPU/GPU hot water out, and going to the plate exchanger input, that waterfall probably has a built-in pump in it you could use for the secondary loop only question is if it has enough head. That way if you wanted and needed and could, you *might* be able to run passive when idle...and could turn up the radiator fans when doing anything.

You could also hook the plate exchanger up such that you could bypass it with quick disconnects, with the computer being its own self-contained loop

Like this:

Computer loop (primary loop)

Res/pump->CPU/GPU->Radiator (-> back to Res/Pump or ->plate exchanger->res/pump

(QDC genders on primary loop I/O hoses reversed so QDCs could be connected to separate from exchanger)

Plate exchanger
Secondary Loop


Water fountain->loopback to exchanger


A fair bit of trouble to go to for a water fountain...but might be neat, and certainly worthy of its own thread/build log.
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7/19/12 at 1:14pm
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everyone has a refrigerator already in the kitchen. run two longs tubes, 1/2 x 3x4 :-) i agree on the water fountain sound. it is therapeutic.

1st problem being, standard pumps like D5 only have 16 foot of pumping head or so. 2nd problem is condensation due to return line water being sub-ambient.

Water-fountain computer is less trouble, and sounds better than a refrigerator compressor.
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7/19/12 at 1:20pm
those sorts of fountains usually have very little flow - i doubt youd get 1.5GPM through it tongue.gif
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7/19/12 at 1:25pm
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those sorts of fountains usually have very little flow - i doubt youd get 1.5GPM through it tongue.gif

Then replace the fountain pump with a D5-Strong. biggrin.gif
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7/19/12 at 1:34pm
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The plumbing part doesn't concern me, I'm just mainly concerned with how "open loop" systems perform and if I would have to factor in a filter for particulates (and what/where to get one) and if I would have to add a radiator and fans.

It is basically a fancy bong cooler, just without the fan.

Rather than running that fountain water straight into your blocks, why don't you just bury a radiator in the base of the fountain? The radiator runs on it's own separate closed loop to your system; basically a liquid to liquid heat exchange.
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7/19/12 at 2:03pm
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Well, after seeing that plate heat exchanger, I am definitely going to go that route. That will exchange up to 3kW (13,600 BTU) of heat. It will also get around the main issue of biological and particulates in my water blocks. Awesome find and suggestion, Skripka!

So the route I'm thinking now is to build a pedestal that contains the heat exchanger, a D5 pump, and will have enough room to hold those components and possibly a 140.4 radiator and fans (just in case the waterfall won't exchange enough heat). I'll set the water fountain on top of that, and connect that to the base with QDC's, and then have my computer connected to the base via QDC's.

I think I shall call this thing ... Project Rainforest.

Time to check the finances.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 7/19/12 at 2:07pm
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