Hello, My gtx 460 crapped out on my and MSI is sending me a N465GTX TWIN FROZR II GE. Just curious is its worth attempting to flash to a 470 and can it be reversed. I've never flashed a GPU but am for sure open to learning if its gonna increase performance
You can always flash the card back. It's simple if you have a second card you can throw in to display. I would do it but you will have to do some research because if memory serves me correctly it's only the cards with black pcb that can be flashed. I would check to see if anyone has done it successfully with the TWIN FROZR II first.
You can do it and it should work. I had personal experience doing this on the exact same type of card.
You won't get much performance benefit (in comparison to a 470) mainly because you won't be able to take advantage of the amount of ram that a 470 has.
You can do it and it should work. I had personal experience doing this on the exact same type of card.
You won't get much performance benefit (in comparison to a 470) mainly because you won't be able to take advantage of the amount of ram that a 470 has.
They sent you a 465 GE with 8 RAM chips.
That being said, the 465 GE has a wicked cooler.
Well long story short, I had my hands on a 8 chip version and I flashed it and it worked... didn't get the same performance as a full 470 though. Not sure how much of a benefit there was over having it at stock.
The one you have will be an 8 chip.The 10 chip was a very limited run and MSI to my knowledge does not have any left in stock.
Long Story:
The fan blade on my 10 chip 465 GE broke and I phoned prior to getting a RMA by some guy who seemed to care less and was informed that I would get either the same card or identical specified 10 RAM Chips back. The RMA went through quickly, got a replacement card instead of a fix as is to standard procedure. Was too lazy to remove the cooler to be sure it had 10 RAM chips so I went ahead with the bios upgrade to a 470, turned out it only had 8 RAM chips. So I called them back, got someone who personally tracked down the location of my card and ensured that I got my card back with the repaired fan. He informed me that the card is very special and was a limited run and they no longer have those in stock in North America and had to get my card back from a warehouse in the U.S. He also sent me a pre-paid packing slip
and apologized for what the other guy said without me really complaining about it and said to be careful with the card because they generally don't do this. I think the main reason it was so painless and easy for me to get this done was because I was using that card in SLI with an actual MSI 470 Twin Frozr.
Well my curiousity peaked and i decided to remove the cooler. to my suprise i did have 10 ram chips.. now im running into another problem.. i dont have a usb drive.. however i dont have a spare 80 hard drive installed.. its blank and also a dvd burner.. is it possible to do this flash via the hdd, or dvd disk??
Well my curiousity peaked and i decided to remove the cooler. to my suprise i did have 10 ram chips.. now im running into another problem.. i dont have a usb drive.. however i dont have a spare 80 hard drive installed.. its blank and also a dvd burner.. is it possible to do this flash via the hdd, or dvd disk??
The ones with 10 chips are probably just overstock GTX470's at this point. You can flash the ones with 8 ram chips if it still has the untouched gtx470 core, though note that part of that chip may be disabled because it was unstable to make sure to properly test your unlock for stable performance.
Have fun with your GTX470 if you get your 465 to unlock. Pretty good speed increase even at stock clocks. I also have a Twin Frozer GTX465 in my HTPC with the black PCB, though sadly the card only has 8 ram chips and the non unlockable chip. Still has plenty of power at 850mhz though. Also when you do flash your card you should probably alter the bios for full voltage range before hand. I needed 1.15v for 850 core, and the stock bios will only let you get up to 1.087
Well I got a USB drive, and followed the instructions. I was able to flash to the 470 firmware, but I had dots all over the screen and windows would not boot. I was able to boot back into the flashing soft and flashed back to the 465 firmware. Was kind of scary.
Well I got a USB drive, and followed the instructions. I was able to flash to the 470 firmware, but I had dots all over the screen and windows would not boot. I was able to boot back into the flashing soft and flashed back to the 465 firmware. Was kind of scary.
Think I had a corrupted firmware ??
I remember when Linus from NCIX was flashing these personally he said there were a good amount that just didn't make the cut and didn't take the 470 bios flash very well so they flashed them back to 465s. (Since they were selling these cards pre-flashed) It wouldn't hurt to try again with another bios though.
im about to make a second attempt at flashing the bios.. of the 465.. im thinking i had a wrong bios verison.. i've check out some other threads and one lead me to at site to download different verisons of the 470 bios...
Honestly it shouldn't really matter which bios you use. I've even flashed the GTX480 bios to my 465. When I had a couple 465s unlocked, I would typically use the EVGA 470 SC bios, so I could use precision x.
If you do need a bit more voltage to be stable, the bios can be edited pretty easily to give you more volts by default, so you don't need to rely on Afterburner, or Precision X starting. I had one that I had to set @ 1.065v so it would be stable as a GTX470.
aw, bummer, 465 runs slightly cooler and uses less power at least.
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Related Threads
?
?
?
?
?
Ask a question
Ask a question
Overclock.net
27.8M posts
541.2K members
Since 2004
A forum community dedicated to overclocking enthusiasts and testing the limits of computing. Come join the discussion about computing, builds, collections, displays, models, styles, scales, specifications, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more!