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Building a budget gaming rig, very confused about ram!!

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Hello,

I am a little confused about ram--> I remember reading that tighter timings is better on amd systems than faster speeds (I run 7-7-7-21 1333hz on my old build for example) but people are recommending I go with 1600hz Cl9. I tried reading some guides on the differences but not much stuck with me afterwards frown.gif ALso should i be looking for dual channel ram?1 Stick? Does it matter? I don't think I need more than 4gb..

This is what I have so far;

Keyboard/mouse, 560ti, and monitor ( I am looking at U2312HM to go on sale again but have spare in meantime) I already own, so just need the rest.

Looking for a decent budget gaming rig, >500$ components not including what I have.

I am somewhat behind on times (learned about XMP memory today tongue.gif)

So far I have found the following deals on NCIX that expire on the 24/25 (in canada so no microcenter around), they seem quite good;


In Stock 68820 $199.99 $199.99
1 x AMD Phenom II X4 960 Black Edition Quad Core Processor AM3 3.0GHZ 8MB Cache 95W OEM
1 x ASUS M5A97 AMD970/SB950 ATX AM3+ DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3.0 Audio CrossFireX Motherboard
1 x Coolermaster Hyper 101A Direct Contact 2 Heatpipe CPU Heatsink AM3 AM2 940 939 80MM Bearing Fan
(P.S I kind of have a spare cm212 sink, but probably wouldnt push the 960 too far, think the 101 would be enough to run 3.6-3.8ghz safely?)

Bitfenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case Black 3X5.25EXT 8X3.5INT No PS Top USB3.0 Audio
In Stock 60585 $59.99 $59.99


G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GBECO Eco PC3-10666 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-21 1.35V Memory Kit
In Stock 46496 $42.17 $42.17
-All I remember about ram is the tighter the timings the better the ram goes with an amd rig. Almost all the ram I see online have fast speeds but loose timings, don't really want or need more than 4gb here but what would be better for gaming? Will this compliment the motherboard well?

Corsair Professional HX650W 650W ATX 12V 52A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 120MM Fan
In Stock 42532 $99.99 $99.99
-I went with this because I may end up doing 560ti sli down the line and because I don't cheap out on PSU's.

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM 3.5IN SATA Internal Hard Drive OEM
$59.99 $59.99

Total: $462.13
post #2 of 4
1600 9-9-9 is basically the standard these days, but unless you need the bandwidth, the lower timings will help give the computer a "snappier" feel. The fact that is 1333 (fast enough) 7-7-7 (good timings) and 1.35v (nice low power consumption/heat), plus it's G.Skill. You will be fine with that set, although you may have to set the timings manually, which isnt hard. When/if you need more ram, buy another kit and drop it in.

You DO want 2 sticks for dual channel. Always make the most of the number of channels you have available.

You have a 900-series motherboard, so upgrading to Piledriver in the future (if you want) is possible. It has nice and big VRM heatsinks (important)

Deneb chips can hit 4.0 with ease, and you can OC the northbridge to help too. If you get an aftermarket cooler in the future, overclocking will be easy.

The 560TI is still a good card, and they scale in SLI well. Unfortunately, the 970 chipset has few PCI-e lanes. You are limited to x16/x4. (which is silly, the x16 should be able to split to x8/x8...) In general, this means SLI isn't going to happen. In reality, this is ok... The card is aging a bit, and by the time you are looking to upgrade the GPU, the 700-series cards should be coming out.

Corsair makes great PSUs, good choice.

All in all, it looks good, and you didn't lock yourself out of an upgrade path.
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Isn't the m5a99x about the same price? I'd get the newer chipset..
This RAM is good:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147096&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Memory+%28Desktop+Memory%29-_-SAMSUNG-_-20147096
Only thing better on AMD is Super-Talent or Dominator Hypers
timings @ 1600 are 7-8-8-20
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

Isn't the m5a99x about the same price? I'd get the newer chipset..
Only thing better on AMD is Super-Talent or Dominator Hypers
timings @ 1600 are 7-8-8-20
Newer chipset mobo is more expensive when taking the bundle into account.

I;d rather buy everything together and unfortunately the samsung wonder ram is not available at NCIX.

Are these the Hypers* you mention?

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&vpn=KHX1600C9D3B1K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1261
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1261

I dont know the difference between those 2 but they seem reasonably priced and well reviewed. Dominators seem to sell at more of a premium.

With a NH-D14 cooler, going by the ram picture im guessing they are fairly low profile and not a problem?

edit: I could pay the extra shipping for the samsung ram if neither of those are a reasonable alternative
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