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post #41 of 81
7/22/12 at 12:16am
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I played that on a Tri-core (Athlon II X3 440) it was stable, my friend's Old C2D plays it without any jerkyness and during the Beta I tried a C2D at 2.8GHz and did not suffer any of the symptoms you suggested, but one of my friends do have that symptom, but its most likely due to his 2GB ram.
I guess its more of a hit or miss on dual cores.

It could also be that in 9 months since release, Dice has made a lot of "optimizations" or changes to the code too, since you ran beta. I seem to remember people with i7s having serious issues back in october and people were disabling hyperthreading to eliminate stutter. Also, yeah its possible that 3 cores is enough. Just according to my tests, 2 is definitely not. Even two cores at 3.7ghz with lots of extra cache. When I finish downloading bf3 on my laptop i'll post the results of hyperthreading vs not on a dual core.
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7/22/12 at 12:26am
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It could also be that in 9 months since release, Dice has made a lot of "optimizations" or changes to the code too, since you ran beta. I seem to remember people with i7s having serious issues back in october and people were disabling hyperthreading to eliminate stutter. Also, yeah its possible that 3 cores is enough. Just according to my tests, 2 is definitely not. Even two cores at 3.7ghz with lots of extra cache. When I finish downloading bf3 on my laptop i'll post the results of hyperthreading vs not on a dual core.

Lol, The X3 and my friend's C2D ran latest versions of the game, the C2D I tried was during in the Beta. tongue.gif Infact, We still use those rigs for online skirmishes. But yes, the so called "optimizations" caused my X3 to load slower. mad.gif
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post #43 of 81
7/22/12 at 12:42am
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If you disable HT in the BIOS of your laptop, does it make a big difference?

Well I just verified that YES the stutter is there when I disable hyperthreading on my i5-460m! It isn't as pronounced, but I think this is more likely the result of looking at a 17.3" screen vs a 20" monitor, but it is definitely there where when I have HT enabled on the 460m, it is not!

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Lol, The X3 and my friend's C2D ran latest versions of the game, the C2D I tried was during in the Beta. tongue.gif Infact, We still use those rigs for online skirmishes. But yes, the so called "optimizations" caused my X3 to load slower. mad.gif

Right right. I'm saying the X3 may be enough (3 threads minimum, not 4 minimum) to keep BF3 from stuttering. Your friend's C2D I'd bet, even if he upgraded to 8GB of ram, would still stutter.

At any rate, it looks like I'll have to buy a new cpu now for this mobile gaming rig frown.gif Looks like i3 is the minimum since it has hyperthreading.
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post #44 of 81
7/22/12 at 6:04am
You should try troubleshooting first before jumping into purchasing another CPU..


This horrible video claims this is BF3 on your CPU

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7/22/12 at 6:28am
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Again, you are completely off track. The wattage is not your problem in this case, but very close, as your 150W estimate is far too low. Your 12 volt may not be providing steady voltage. Even small fluctuation in this can cause choppy video while playing games. Since you are an electrical engineer, I don't think I need to explain how you can test your 12 volt rail for stability while your system is under load.
Also, you may want to consider that just your GPU pulls more than 200 watts while your system is under load / gameplay.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7770-7750-benchmark,3135-14.html
Also, I would like to state that your problem could be the CPU, as many have already told you. I had a GTX 460 with a 750W Corsair PSU, but my CPU could not handle MW3, so it stuttered.

Not to drag up your argument again but just in case you're still watching this thread, that's total system consumption in a rig with a 3960X at 4.2GHz and it's probably measured at the wall. What that means is that the 7770 is using a laughably small amount of power because a 3960X at 4.2 uses most of that 200W reading.

And OP, I know you've already determined it's a CPU problem but if it helps at all my i3 540 at 3GHz used to have short freezes every now and then in the beta, very short but they were annoying. They go away at some frequency under 4GHz though.
I don't think it happens as much if it does at all with the current version.
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7/22/12 at 8:02am
I had stutter on my I3 2100 on BF3 for a bit but it was power saving setting in bios trying to back clock speed down .
Have you turned all that of .
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7/22/12 at 9:12am
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Not to drag up your argument again but just in case you're still watching this thread, that's total system consumption in a rig with a 3960X at 4.2GHz and it's probably measured at the wall. What that means is that the 7770 is using a laughably small amount of power because a 3960X at 4.2 uses most of that 200W reading.
And OP, I know you've already determined it's a CPU problem but if it helps at all my i3 540 at 3GHz used to have short freezes every now and then in the beta, very short but they were annoying. They go away at some frequency under 4GHz though.
I don't think it happens as much if it does at all with the current version.

Yeah. Keep in mind that the g630 only uses about 40W at full load and that is from the wall. My Kill-a-watt meter shows that the 7770 uses about 8w at idle and about 80W at full load. The whole system when idling uses 25W without the video card. Damn damn impressive.
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I had stutter on my I3 2100 on BF3 for a bit but it was power saving setting in bios trying to back clock speed down .
Have you turned all that of .

Interesting. Ill give that a try this afternoon. Do you happen to remember which setting exactly? CPU-Z does show the cpu is at full 2.7ghz the whole time, but i'll disable all power features in my bios and see if that helps. I'll also going to submit a ticket to BF3 support. They should probably know the answer and whether ill "need" to upgrade.
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7/22/12 at 9:18am
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7/22/12 at 9:21am
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I know how to fix..Set core affinity for BF3 to 1-2 cores.
also..download this:http://download.cnet.com/CFF-Explorer/3000-2383_4-10431156.html
and set bf3 to use more than 2 gb RAM
er..back up the executable,1st
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7/22/12 at 9:41am
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Yeah, i'm going to try one of my 6970s next week.
I'm pretty much at a loss at this point without reinstalling windows.
TF2 by the way on offline practice also uses close to 100% cpu (though not fully 100%). I'm not wondering if maybe I do have a faulty cpu or bad cache on the cores, etc.

If it isn't software it's hardware and not weak hardware but, some sort of hardware failure. it isn't the first time i have heard/seen this problem before.
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