Wow, just, WOW, remember how I said poor people end up saving $70.00 on AMD Thuban X6 versus intel 2500k? Well, like you all said, that's only in the case of the slowest thuban 1045t at microcenter for $94.99 (5% off for microcenter's frequent buyer program is pretty awesome, just gave em my phone number and e-mail and they hand me 5% off coupons good for 60 days with every purchase, so if you're getting ready to buy a $500.00 3930k buy a pack of gum, get a 5% off coupon good for 60 days, buy a 3930k, get a $25.00 discount eh? Awesome.
That same 1045t is $129.99 on amazon, ebay, and not sold on newegg.
To me no other thuban black edition or otherwise, nor bulldozer, even makes sense.
Thubans get a 15% boost in actual performance when overclocking northbridge from the excessively low 2.0 GHz to 2.6 GHz or greater
Bulldozer, isn't it already at 2.6 GHz northbridge and requires watercooling to even go above 2.8 GHz northbridge? That's 3-4% performance improvement.
*Google* "Importance of northbridge overclocking"
That actually makes Thubans about 1% faster in minimum fps even in 6-8 threaded games like battlefield 3, according to sweclockers 64 player multiplayer pics/slides as well as googled information on "importance of northbridge overclocking". I'm just following min fps slides from sweclockers and factoring that none of the processors listed are overclocked, getting to almost 5 GHz on bulldozer and 4 GHz on thuban, then adding northbridge overclocking then drawing a conclusion. Few know AMD processors well enough to care about what northbridge overclocking really is all about.
So we think piledriver will offer us about 20% improvement via higher clock & power saving & 15% higher IPC. Piledriver will be about 19% better than Thuban in gaming, unless somehow FPU bottlenecks come to play I really have no idea what kind of FPU is really needed honestly I don't have a clue...Is that worth upgrading from a thuban to a piledriver? Yes, but not on release, most likely 6-12 months after release you can get a piledriver for $150.00 or less, then and maybe then that's still an aweful lot of hassle.
Or sell the whole system and beef up your thuban's northbridge to as close to 3 GHz as you can get and the clockspeed as close to 4 GHz as you can get and sell out and go intel. There was this dude on these forums I was busy googling and saw a post of his from 2010. He says "I will never buy intel because of the evil crap they did". Then I remember googling about all of intel's evil crap they pulled with messing up their compiler to cripple AMD processors in software compiled with intel's compiler, about 5 seconds later I notice under his "rigbuilder signature" he had an intel 2600k system that caught up to his old post because as of at least 2012 he went intel. LOL just LOL.
Anyway just think piledriver = must spend +$30.00 extra on power supply costs and get a 1000 watt psu because you're losing about 300 watts of wasted electricity and $8.00 per month in extra electric costs just to go piledriver. This isn't fake this is reality, so platform costs just went up to go AMD and now you're within $40.00 of a top to bottom intel 2600k system by piledriver's release even though piledriver is looking like it will be within 10% of the 2600k (from my very, very calculated minimum fps calculations in gaming). Does that seem worth it to you? That $40.00 will be lost in 4 months of power bills, and piledriver likely won't be less than $199.99 I can get a 2600k for $239.99 at microcenter (who knows how much where else). And piledriver will only be good in BF3 where I can use my 8 threads. I'm tempted to stop bothering with piledriver's extra 19% and just do Sandy Bridge E not that much more expensive to me to wait long enough to afford the extra couple hundred bucks.
Edited by Kancel21 - 7/24/12 at 5:01pm