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I don't understand everyone's logic.

Sorry AMD, you aren't allowed to improve or invent stuff. You aren't the best so you need to cease and desist.
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I don't understand everyone's logic.
Sorry AMD, you aren't allowed to improve or invent stuff. You aren't the best so you need to cease and desist.

this.

but seriously, what gives guys? its coming down to the damn 2500k comparison yet again. i find it nearly impossible to have an amd discussion without a 2500k owner chiming in with benchmarks.
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Vishera 6300: Here I Come!!!
    
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That FX8300 3.3 GHz 95W TDP is looking delicious. I can't wait to OC the crap out of it.
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I don't understand everyone's logic.
Sorry AMD, you aren't allowed to improve or invent stuff. You aren't the best so you need to cease and desist.
It's not just that. It's people's dissappointment of AMD's fall from the desktop processor competition. It's people dissappointment at Bulldozer after all the hype from AMD. A lot of people learned the hard way to not simply buy something out of blind "loyalty" towards a company, but to read reviews and then make their decision. A lot of rage towards AMD is stemming from that.

I personally hope AMD can make a big return so that I can get my Intel chips cheaper. Until AMD step up the competition, Intel will have no reason to back down their prices. I want cheaper Intel stuff, so don't let us down AMD!
Edited by Tippy - 7/22/12 at 11:07pm
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The processors are still at 125watts? Uh-oh, no good. I thought their goal was to push down the power draw. Seems like its not going to happen no?

TDP is only one measure (and not a particularly good measure) of power draw; the major problem with Bulldozer wasn't its base TDP so much as the fact that it starts gobbling down volts when pushed at high overclocks. More volts generally equals more heat, which isn't good for the life of chips, and it acts as a sort of brick wall that prevents enthusiasts from OCing higher.

The BD architecture is technically capable of very high clocks, but it's bottlenecked by the amount of heat it produces, which prevents it from realizing its true potential. The hope is that resonant clock mesh and the other architectural improvements in Piledriver will help to keep the power draw down at higher clocks, thus removing one of BD's major issues.
Its not actually a measure of power draw, only related to it. Its actually heat.
    
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this.
but seriously, what gives guys? its coming down to the damn 2500k comparison yet again. i find it nearly impossible to have an amd discussion without a 2500k owner chiming in with benchmarks.

This so much.

An FX4100 is less than 100 euros here and for a lot of people it is a very good cpu that does all they want. Not everyone needs the best. Some people just want good performance for a decent price instead of great performance for a high price.

Benchmarks are making people crazy. Only aiming for the top. While almost no one actually uses it to the max.
 
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That FX8300 3.3 GHz 95W TDP is looking delicious. I can't wait to OC the crap out of it.

My eyes are also glued to new FX's
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this.
but seriously, what gives guys? its coming down to the damn 2500k comparison yet again. i find it nearly impossible to have an amd discussion without a 2500k owner chiming in with benchmarks.

It comes down to the 2500k because at the moment its the gold standard, the processor to beat. For any kind of serious work or gaming it offers the best price performance and excellent overclockability. Even with newer and faster Intel CPU's on the market the 2500k remains the entry level CPU of choice when a performance is needed. To be successful the Piledriver's high end models need to have a comfortable lead over the 2500k in price/performance.
    
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No it doesn't. That is 1337 talk. You can play games on a high resolution with high FPS with an AMD cpu. Yes the AMD cpus are a bottleneck sooner than the Intel opponents, but everyone makes it sound like everything beneath the 2500k is not worth it and that is crazy. It's the same when people tell someone to get a 850watt PSU with a quad core and a single gpu setup or advise someone 16GB ram to play video games. It is all untrue.
 
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