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My move from AMD to Intel made a huge difference in gaming performance. I do like the look of AMD's APU lineup though.
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I see a lot of hype, this time just without our resident AMD rep at the pump adding pressure. I'll reserve my judgement until I see the benches. If I have managed to not switch to Intel by that time and benches look good then awesome. If I have then I'm probably sitting on something that runs circles around what AMD managed to release considering how far behind they are with dozer.
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Ugh why did I have to read this, now I have to decide weather I want to get a used Phenom II x6 or a used 8120 in about a month or so when I have the money, or keep saving for a new 8300 a month or 2 after that. My current CPU is okay and almost works good enough so I'll probably wait, but I don't know. I guess it depends on how long before I have the rest of the money for the x6/x8 and if any more info comes out by then.
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No it doesn't. That is 1337 talk. You can play games on a high resolution with high FPS with an AMD cpu. Yes the AMD cpus are a bottleneck sooner than the Intel opponents, but everyone makes it sound like everything beneath the 2500k is not worth it and that is crazy. It's the same when people tell someone to get a 850watt PSU with a quad core and a single gpu setup or advise someone 16GB ram to play video games. It is all untrue.

What's with the ridicule? Why does it mater that I have a 1366 socket? Does it somehow make my statements less reliable? I'm not saying that anything slower then a 2500k is useless or can't play games. I'm well aware that phenoms and thubans perform very well in games and other workloads. In fact I'm quite the fan of the x6 1100T.

What I'm saying is that if you are building a computer today, that will be used for CPU intensive tasks then the 2500k is still (in most cases) the best choice. It's in the sweat spot of the current CPU line up. Spend more money and you get very diminished returns in terms of performance per $. Meaning getting a 2600k is often not worth it as the performance gain is not high enough to justify the cost and the money could be better spent on other parts of the system.

It works the same way in the other direction. Get something that is slower then the 2500k and you start to loos performance and features fast while you aren't saving that much money.
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That's stock clocks. Try again.
Same review also has OCd comparisons... (Click to show)


 
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Something must be wrong with that review.

The Bulldozer chips are overclocked higher, but their results are lower. headscratch.gif








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I see a lot of hype, this time just without our resident AMD rep at the pump adding pressure. I'll reserve my judgement until I see the benches. If I have managed to not switch to Intel by that time and benches look good then awesome. If I have then I'm probably sitting on something that runs circles around what AMD managed to release considering how far behind they are with dozer.
It's a little different this time because Trinity has been released and the numbers match up. The only letdowns I can see happening are Piledriver not clocking high enough and power consumption not being reduced.
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It's a little different this time because Trinity has been released and the numbers match up. The only letdowns I can see happening are Piledriver not clocking high enough and power consumption not being reduced.

The be fair some hype is almost unavoidable when people who care about the thing are waiting for it. With the bulldozer, however, the gap between expectations and what was delivered was quite huge. At least I personally was quite disappointed. It was not all about the raw performance for me but also lack of some new bling I was sort of hoping for, like, for example PCI-E 3.0 support. As I was burnt with faildozer hype (by having high personal expectations and plan to upgrade including a motherboard acquired for the purpose) then I'm not trusting AMD numbers for some years to come before I'll see interdependent benches.

Intel has had its issues (like TIM in Ivy) but their release promises have held up a bit better over the past couple of years than AMD.

I'm not a fan of either, I do, however, care a lot about price/performance (the whole package, not only that,i.e., overclokability, power, cost of chipsets and if I need to change mobo, etc).
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Come on AMD! I know you've still got something left. I'm actually really excited for this.
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Ugh why did I have to read this, now I have to decide weather I want to get a used Phenom II x6 or a used 8120 in about a month or so when I have the money, or keep saving for a new 8300 a month or 2 after that. My current CPU is okay and almost works good enough so I'll probably wait, but I don't know. I guess it depends on how long before I have the rest of the money for the x6/x8 and if any more info comes out by then.

Honestly, you'd be best off holding on to your CPU. The FX 8-cores use too much power for their performance, and the FX quad-core wouldn't be a big improvement, except in the memory department.

With all this talk of framerates and benchmarks and Intel being better: yes, the 2500k keeps up with SLI/CF setups and nVidia 6xx / AMD 78xx/79xx better than Bulldozer. However, even an Athlon x3, paired with my 560ti 448-core, plays BF3 on Ultra, even in Multiplayer, with no lag unless I get ping spikes. It also plays Skyrim and Dirt 3 perfectly fine on highest settings (including about 4GB of texture mods on Skyrim).

The fact is, 85%+ of games are still GPU-limited, and the only time the 2500k shows a big advantage is with very high-end cards.

2500k + 7970 = $690
FX-8120 + 7850 = $420

Is it worth $270 to you, personally? That's the difference. For overall price - performance, maybe Intel has the lead. But to say that a $220 CPU is "entry level" is inaccurate for a lot of people, even those who call themselves enthusiasts. And when you pair either CPU with a $150-250 GPU (which is the real "entry level" for enthusiasts) the performance gap shrinks in a hurry.
Edited by pow3rtr1p - 7/23/12 at 6:52am
    
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