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Originally Posted by byteninja2 View Post

Well, the GTX 670 is better, just slightly, than a 7970. But, for extra vRam, I have to say go with the 7970. I would get a 4 GB 670, for that many monitors, as even 3 gb might not be enough. Will you gaming on all the monitors? And, the 7950 price wont go down much, if at all, I am sure. And, if (BIG) OC, (Get the twin frozr for big oc), the 7950 will beat a 670.

Thanks for that information, I probably won't OC right away, but it's nice to know I have plenty of headroom to keep up for a while. The HD7950 seems to be the best bang for the buck for my needs, and I am all about value!
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post #32 of 117
7970 is faster than Gtx670.

Gtx680 is the direct rival of 7970, have same performance.
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post #33 of 117
In the 'gaming world'
GTX 680 beats 7970 HANDS DOWN.
whoever says otherwise is just an AMD fanboy.

go google test results yourself.

7970 benches better, and that's about it.
the drivers are terrible, and actual graphics are more 'gritty' at times.

I have both. (as I do bench at hwbot), but as a gamer as well, I cannot with good conscience, recommend anyone to go for the 7970, when the GTX 680 is just a MUCH better experience.

In fact you know why nvidia MADE the GTX 670?
cause GTX 680 already beaten 7970 to a bloody pulp. and now they just want a card that performs at 7970 level and at nearly same cost.

GTX 670 ~= HD7970

GTX 680 > 7970
Edited by Bluezero5 - 7/22/12 at 9:29am
post #34 of 117
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Originally Posted by Bluezero5 View Post

In the 'gaming world'
GTX 680 beats 7970 HANDS DOWN.
whoever says otherwise is just an AMD fanboy.
go google test results yourself.
7970 benches better, and that's about it.
the drivers are terrible, and actual graphics are more 'gritty' at times.
I have both. (as I do bench at hwbot), but as a gamer as well, I cannot with good conscience, recommend anyone to go for the 7970, when the GTX 680 is just a MUCH better experience.
In fact you know why nvidia MADE the GTX 670?
cause GTX 680 already beaten 7970 to a bloody pulp. and now they just want a card that performs at 7970 level and at nearly same cost.
GTX 670 ~= HD7970
GTX 680 > 7970

when over clocked the 7970 shines against the 680 tho...
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post #35 of 117
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when over clocked the 7970 shines against the 680 tho...

again. in the amateur benching world only. I am well aware, and that's why I have a 7970 myself.

Do note however.. if you apply volt mod to both in the expert benching world...
the GTX 680 beats the 7970 by a HUGE margin. All current world records are set by volt mod GTX 680s.
Though I don't expect everyone to know volt modding though. But should one day Nvidia releases a new bios to unlock the voltage... then there's almost NO reason to buy the 7970 then on. (as benching or gaming.. GTX680 better then.)


on the gaming world..
even when overclocked, in the gaming world, GTX 680 wins almost in every catagory.
post #36 of 117
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Originally Posted by Bluezero5 View Post

again. in the amateur benching world only. I am well aware, and that's why I have a 7970 myself.
Do note however.. if you apply volt mod to both in the expert benching world...
the GTX 680 beats the 7970 by a HUGE margin. All current world records are set by volt mod GTX 680s.
Though I don't expect everyone to know volt modding though. But should one day Nvidia releases a new bios to unlock the voltage... then there's almost NO reason to buy the 7970 then on. (as benching or gaming.. GTX680 better then.)
on the gaming world..
even when overclocked, in the gaming world, GTX 680 wins almost in every catagory.

If you have a HD 7970 and GTX 680 at what clock speeds were the cards running. what games did you test and what settings. what drivers did you use. what resolution were you testing at. You have made such a blanket statement that its hard to take you seriously. I guess all these websites are not correct.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/54954-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-ghz-edition-review-21.html

"While we may have seen this all before from other pre-overclocked HD 7970 cards, under no circumstance should you overlook the GHz Edition. Performance per watt has certainly taken a step in the right direction, AMD’s Boost works when it has to and pricing is actually quite fair considering its framerate advantage at higher detail settings. In our opinion and with all other things being equal, the HD 7970 GHz Edition is the card to have for ultra high resolution gaming"

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-3GB-GHz-Edition-Review-Taking-GTX-680/Overclocking-and-Con

"I found it pretty interesting how the performance differences played out. NVIDIA's GTX 680 seemed to win at the lower resolutions of 1680x1050 and 1920x1080 most of the time, but fell behind at 2560x1600 and 5760x1080 regularly. While the added frame buffer on the AMD cards might have helped that, I really think it is just a difference in how the architectures are designed."

http://techreport.com/articles.x/23150/11

"The Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition has indeed recaptured the single-GPU performance title for AMD; it's even faster than Zotac's GTX 680 AMP! Edition. And at $499.99, the 7970 GHz Edition is unambiguously a better value than the stock-clocked GeForce GTX 680. Everything seems to be going AMD's way—even our power consumption results turned out to be closer than expected"

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition-review-benchmark,3232-19.html

"AMD’s driver team deserves to take this weekend off. Its beta Catalyst 12.7 build does stellar things to the performance of several games in our benchmark suite. No longer is Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 670 faster than the Radeon HD 7970. And, in fact, these new drivers are largely responsible for the Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition card outmaneuvering GeForce GTX 680 in most of the tests we ran"


And you want everybody to believe what you said . tongue.gif
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post #37 of 117
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We got a noob here.
Noob alert. Noob Alert.
seriously bro. talk to me when u have a system like this:

I would also accept your comment, when you are either:
top 50 in the OC league of extreme cooling. (which I am top 20.)
or
Stop quoting review sites from these second tier review site.
thank you.
Bad ass here ^

But seriously there has been probably 15 threads about "670 or 7970" I would just use the search.
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when over clocked the 7970 shines against the 680 tho...
And when you overclock the 670?!?
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We got a noob here.
Noob alert. Noob Alert.
seriously bro. talk to me when u have a system like this:

I would also accept your comment, when you are either:
top 50 in the OC league of extreme cooling. (which I am top 20.)
or
Stop quoting review sites from these second tier review site.
reason you are a noob:
1, you talk about how much I OC my card, but quotes site reviews without OC being considered.
2, you ask about drivers being used, well friend, driver being used is as specific as key to keyhole in the benching world. I call that another noob question.
3, Back to my point, have you even HEARD of volt mod? if not. please read up. you are embarassing yourself.
4, lastly, you think catalyst 12.7 is good? wait til u test it against nvidia beta 304.79. really. do that now.
thank you.
and yes. GTX 680 under volt mod holding all world record in both gaming/benching world I suppose matter not too you.
back to my original point.
"anyone that claims AMD 7970 (whatever version) is better, is just a noob or an AMD fan boy"

Your best bet is to call for an open benchmark challenge in the HD 7970 users thread. There are quite a few guys running watercooled HD 7970 CF (dual,tri,quad) who would be willing to take your challenge head on. And run games more than benchmarks thumb.gif
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We got a noob here.
Noob alert. Noob Alert.
seriously bro. talk to me when u have a system like this:

I would also accept your comment, when you are either:
top 50 in the OC league of extreme cooling. (which I am top 20.)
or
Stop quoting review sites from these second tier review site.
reason you are a noob:
1, you talk about how much I OC my card, but quotes site reviews without OC being considered.
2, you ask about drivers being used, well friend, driver being used is as specific as key to keyhole in the benching world. I call that another noob question.
3, Back to my point, have you even HEARD of volt mod? if not. please read up. you are embarassing yourself.
4, lastly, you think catalyst 12.7 is good? wait til u test it against nvidia beta 304.79. really. do that now.
thank you.
and yes. GTX 680 under volt mod holding all world record in both gaming/benching world I suppose matter not too you.
back to my original point.
"anyone that claims AMD 7970 (whatever version) is better, is just a noob or an AMD fan boy"

People will probably take you seriously if you remember this is a discussion board, not a place for offensive and close minded dribble.
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And when you overclock the 670?!?

was referring to GTX 680 only.
GTX 670 is Nvidia's answer to something that's cheap and performs at 7970

I haven't OC the GTX 670 or volt mod it.
and probably won't. so I do not commend on the GTX 670 here.

My gut feeling is that it is probably around same as 7970. (though this statement unfounded, but since you asked.)

but we DO know. GTX 680 > GTX 670.
and I will just say, on the LN2 side of volt modding, the GTX 680 blasts the 7970 away.
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