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7/23/12 at 9:26am
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The S100 is a pro level P&S if there is such a thing. It's the best P&S I've used by far. The sensor and processor are a completely new generation from the S95 so it's a good time to buy. Even when the S105 comes out some day, it will likely use the same CPU and sensor as the S100 if Canon follows its previous pattern. Unfortunately, it is also quite expensive for a P&S. If you're not going to be taking advantage of the RAW capability and manual modes like M, Tv, and Av, you might be better off with one of Canon's lower end P&S cameras. Don't get hung up on GPS. You can always tag your photos later. In addition, GPS takes a lot of power from the camera and P&S's don't have large batteries to begin with. I typically turn GPS off on the S100 to conserve power.

I will defiantly be using the camera to shoot RAW and always using manual modes. I've looked it up and it really is between the two I have mentioned. The GPS feature isn't something I /need/ but its just nice to have there automatically. The only thing really stopping me from this right now is the F./5.9 aperture when fully zoomed, I can see situations where this might be an issue.
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7/23/12 at 1:08pm
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Originally Posted by Rian View Post

The X10 does have f/2.0 through it's range though thinking.gif

No, it doesn't. It's f/2.8 at the long end, but that's more than 2 stops faster than the S100. What you gain in lens speed you lose in size, as the S100 will fit in the back pocket of your jeans, but the x10 certainly will not -- unless you still wear JNCOs (very few people here might get that one).

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Although one thing to note is that I've read the auto focus is a bit slow, but you can always manual focus.

The AF is slower than PDAF in an SLR, sure -- but it's still faster than you might think. Of course, you might actually have to use one to make that distinction. If there's anything that really bugs me about this subforum is that people feel privy to make judgement calls on things they have no experience with. That being said, manual focus is damn near impossible on the x10 -- I do not even consider it useful.

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as I said, I'm not using it for any pro photography, I have my sig setup for that, I just need something for when I'm out and about with friends and nights out, which makes the constant aperture really a plus for me right now.

Then why are you arsing about with RAW? The DR200 and DR400 modes in the x10 are so good, there's no reason to shoot RAW unless you want to do some ridiculous post-processing effects... which defeat the purpose of a point and shoot camera.
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It's a good size, I can put it in a jacket pocket or a shoulder bag and it should be fine

Pretty much everything but the G1x fits this bill.
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7/23/12 at 1:43pm
i agree with sub if you are just buying a partycam RAW is overkill and worrying about having a super fast aperture is not needed unless those 2 stops of light are going to make a huge difference because of a limited max ISO, if you are hoping to get awesome shallow DOF on a P&S you are looking for the wrong features lol. if you are shooting anything where you need it to be best possible quality you have a 7D with excellent lens lineup. for a P&S all you need is something better than an 8MP camera on a smartphone basically. not sure why you want to shoot manual exposure on a P&S just get one that has exposure compensation, just in case, but to have full manual again just bust out the 7D if you need it perfect lol
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post #14 of 17
7/23/12 at 3:08pm
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No, it doesn't. It's f/2.8 at the long end, but that's more than 2 stops faster than the S100. What you gain in lens speed you lose in size, as the S100 will fit in the back pocket of your jeans, but the x10 certainly will not -- unless you still wear JNCOs (very few people here might get that one).
The AF is slower than PDAF in an SLR, sure -- but it's still faster than you might think. Of course, you might actually have to use one to make that distinction. If there's anything that really bugs me about this subforum is that people feel privy to make judgement calls on things they have no experience with. That being said, manual focus is damn near impossible on the x10 -- I do not even consider it useful.
Then why are you arsing about with RAW? The DR200 and DR400 modes in the x10 are so good, there's no reason to shoot RAW unless you want to do some ridiculous post-processing effects... which defeat the purpose of a point and shoot camera.
Pretty much everything but the G1x fits this bill.

Yeah I read the aperture bit wrong, but as you said it still is 2 stops. However I am starting to bend opinion on what I /really/ need. Thanks +rep thumb.gif
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i agree with sub if you are just buying a partycam RAW is overkill and worrying about having a super fast aperture is not needed unless those 2 stops of light are going to make a huge difference because of a limited max ISO, if you are hoping to get awesome shallow DOF on a P&S you are looking for the wrong features lol. if you are shooting anything where you need it to be best possible quality you have a 7D with excellent lens lineup. for a P&S all you need is something better than an 8MP camera on a smartphone basically. not sure why you want to shoot manual exposure on a P&S just get one that has exposure compensation, just in case, but to have full manual again just bust out the 7D if you need it perfect lol

Yeah, I'm just so used to tinkering with every little setting and getting my image just how I like it that it just scares me a bit going to use something where I will be able to change the most basic of settings but you have gotten through to me, I suppose you're right. This being said the x10 does appeal to me a lot and I see myself using it quite a bit, I will go to Jessops soon and have a play with them both and see which one feels right. +rep thumb.gif
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7/23/12 at 3:33pm
I've actually been steering people towards the S95 lately between the S95 & S100, as I keep hearing about complaints (and with the S100's recent Product Advisory from Canon). Seems like a rather wide range of serial numbers (starting from 29 to 41)
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7/23/12 at 4:56pm
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I've actually been steering people towards the S95 lately between the S95 & S100, as I keep hearing about complaints (and with the S100's recent Product Advisory from Canon). Seems like a rather wide range of serial numbers (starting from 29 to 41)

Haven't heard this but it does sound annoying, says that it's a free repair though so it shouldn't be a reason to avoid from the upgrade IMO.
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7/24/12 at 9:54am
If it helps, I find I shoot in JPG mode more often with my S100. My #1 reason for getting the S100 is its tiny size. I wanted something I could take on trips when I don't want to lug all my pro gear around. I agree that in real world use, I haven't found the zoom max aperture of f/5.9 too limiting because I'm often outdoors when I'm zoomed that far. Also, I like to take along a Speedlite and use it in optical trigger mode indoors. Despite Canon's product advisory, I haven't had any problems with the S100 and they are offering to fix it for free. It is a completely new generation from the S95 so I wouldn't purchase the older one right now.
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