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EpicAMD, I think your sudden spike in temps were likely caused by Prime switching tests. I've seen this with my 955 pretty often. One test will run for a while and temps will stabilize and not move, second test, it might go up one, and third test hits and it must be running a different type of processing because the temps will go higher. I'll bet it had less to do with voltage fluctuation and more to do with what was going on inside prime.
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I'll have to make sure I have a look next time I run prime95, your theory sounds pretty good to me, your probably correct.
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For now I'm just going to put everything back into the stock ranges, I'm looking into buying the ASUS M5A97 EVO

http://www.overclock.net/t/1285595/thoughts-on-asus-m5a97-evo-overclocking
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For now I'm just going to put everything back into the stock ranges, I'm looking into buying the ASUS M5A97 EVO
http://www.overclock.net/t/1285595/thoughts-on-asus-m5a97-evo-overclocking

Good choice mate. Instead of the ASUS, you can even go in for this - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128519

Little cheaper, amazing for OC'ing and you get 8+2 phases instead of the 6+2 on the ASUS.
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Well I was going by ebay prices, and on ebay the asus is MUCH cheaper. Also even though it may be a 8+2 on the gigabyte and 6+2 on asus, It looks to me that the ASUS has a massive vrm heatsink compared to the tiny gigabyte one. Also, according to http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboard-vrm-information-list the gigabyte doesnt have any sort of VRM protection, while the ASUS provides vrm throttling.

My only problem with the ASUS is that GUI bios i believe its EUIFI or something like that. My friend has this board and he said he had problems finding things in that bios (he's not the sharpest tool in the shed though).
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The Gigabyte employs forced shutdown if the the VRMs overheat (not that it ever would on an 8+2 setup biggrin.gif). The heatsinks on the Gigabyte are every bit as good as on the ASUS. Its an OCN recommended board.

At the end of the day, both boards are awesome and you shouldn't have a problem with either thumb.gif
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The Gigabyte employs forced shutdown if the the VRMs overheat (not that it ever would on an 8+2 setup biggrin.gif). The heatsinks on the Gigabyte are every bit as good as on the ASUS. Its an OCN recommended board.
At the end of the day, both boards are awesome and you shouldn't have a problem with either thumb.gif

Hmm, I'm a bit perplexed how the gigabyte heatsink could compete with the ASUS's heatsink, or is it just that since there is more VRM's on the gigabyte it doesn't have to be as big?
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Hmm, I'm a bit perplexed how the gigabyte heatsink could compete with the ASUS's heatsink, or is it just that since there is more VRM's on the gigabyte it doesn't have to be as big?

The actual contact point of both the heatsinks on the VRMs is the same on both boards. Its just the outer casing that's different smile.gif
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But it looks like the ASUS also cools the chokes, maybe I'm wrong but at least on my mobo, those chokes can get kinda warm.
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Yeah, first thing you have to do is get rid of this board.  It has pretty much the highest recorded failure rate of any board.

Don't even bother with the cooling; you should save your money for a new board ASAP.  Having the VRM cooling there might extend your lifetime but there seems to be no guarantee; the failures can happen randomly or after some time/degradation, and it's hard to predict.  Nevertheless, it's better to be safe than sorry like many, many others.

 

The fault in this one is capacity; it's in the choice of generally low quality parts and the 3-transistor MOSFET layout.  None of MSI's 770/870 boards can safely handle 125W TDP x4 and x6 processors, let alone overclocked.  This board has been known to fail despite cooling.

 

The active components you should worry about are the MOSFETs, they're the hottest running component.  The chokes are not actually fragile, active transistors - they're simple metal coils that can take on a decent amount of heat.

 

A good quality VRM system will use transistors in an ample layout so as to most effectively spread load between components, whether the phase count is high or not.  Higher phase count systems may sacrifice with lower quality components than lower phase count counterparts, but this not necessarily be a bad thing because each component receives less load and overall heat on the board is much less.  I usually recommend in higher phase count systems for reliability in situations where the CPU is going to be frequently loaded at 100% - i.e. if you regularly CPU transcode or edit video.

 

While you might like the ASUS M5A9_ boards for UEFI and interesting board features, the GIGABYTE GA-990X/970 lineup with its classic BIOS can be triumphed for great reliability.  All 990X/970 boards are equipped with some form of VRM protection (as confirmed in a recent BIOS update) in addition to ample phase counts.  Reliability when overclocking is absolutely solid.  My 990XA is about to approach 1 year of usage - the whole way through pushing a 4Ghz x6 under the stress of an NH-D14 and 4 DIMMs of RAM.

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