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Well I'm going to go scold them for making you have to do more work. tongue.gif

Just as easy to do a netinstall from the 2011 install media and follow the guide, would still be up to date with no problem thumb.gif
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Just as easy to do a netinstall from the 2011 install media and follow the guide, would still be up to date with no problem thumb.gif

Indeed, i was saying to someone only a few days ago that you don't need the latest ISO to install ArchLinux. Arch is pretty unique in that respect.
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Indeed, i was saying to someone only a few days ago that you don't need the latest ISO to install ArchLinux. Arch is pretty unique in that respect.

Yup, one reason I always recommend netinstalls whenever possible. Just removes so much headache from having to update after installing.
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Indeed, i was saying to someone only a few days ago that you don't need the latest ISO to install ArchLinux. Arch is pretty unique in that respect.

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Yup, one reason I always recommend netinstalls whenever possible. Just removes so much headache from having to update after installing.

I've been considering for some time to install Arch and I'm wondering if this is a good time to go for it.

So.. should I try it now or wait a little longer? (things like UEFI and grub2 makes me hesitate a bit about installing Arch)

Please keep in mind that I'm in no way a power user, I'm just someone who wants to play around with gnu/linux but I can do some research and do installs on my own (have a little experience installing debian, mandriva, fedora, ubuntu, the easy ones).

Thanks and sorry for hijacking/derailing the thread.
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I've been considering for some time to install Arch and I'm wondering if this is a good time to go for it.
So.. should I try it now or wait a little longer? (things like UEFI and grub2 makes me hesitate a bit about installing Arch)
Please keep in mind that I'm in no way a power user, I'm just someone who wants to play around with gnu/linux but I can do some research and do installs on my own (have a little experience installing debian, mandriva, fedora, ubuntu, the easy ones).
Thanks and sorry for hijacking/derailing the thread.

try it, see if you can follow the wiki on it. you would have a different pov than us so it would be interesting
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[edit] Grub2 apparently won't be supported by the installer script, another pitfall.

In what way won't it be supported? GRUB legacy isn't supported by Arch at all, whereas GRUB2 is part of the core repository. It seems unlikely that they wouldn't support it.
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Indeed, i was saying to someone only a few days ago that you don't need the latest ISO to install ArchLinux. Arch is pretty unique in that respect.

It depends how new your hardware is. The older ISOs won't even boot for some people.
    
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In what way won't it be supported? GRUB legacy isn't supported by Arch at all, whereas GRUB2 is part of the core repository. It seems unlikely that they wouldn't support it.
It depends how new your hardware is. The older ISOs won't even boot for some people.

arch doesn't ship with grub2, the iso comes with grub. You have to install the system first then install grub2 unless you make your own iso. When I tried it it crapped all over my system (grub) and was forced to use syslinux, no big deal just thought it was a bit... well a bit lame to ship software that's been dropped.
Edited by mushroomboy - 7/27/12 at 7:39pm
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That is a very strange decision. GRUB legacy is only in the AUR now, so having it as the default bootloader for your ISO makes little sense.
    
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That is a very strange decision. GRUB legacy is only in the AUR now, so having it as the default bootloader for your ISO makes little sense.

Hmm, maybe the iso's grub is grub2 and it's just broken. I don't know why it would have been broken so badly, it wouldn't install worth a crap cept giving me a bios error. I've never seen the error either, twas weird. I've never had that problem with grub2 like that, lol idk don't care really. [edit] I swear I had to upgrade from grub legacy, though they might be removing that from the repos and the iso. Maybe it is changing, dunno don't read the arch news or changes and don't really care LOL

[edit] Must be crazy, I guess the new iso files are supposed to have grub2. Maybe I burned the wrong image, hmmmm I've got to clean up my drive one of these days. =(

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=145971

AH HAH! Something is up with the installer, I'm guessing it has nothing to do with the iso. That's the problem I had, and it was reporting legacy grub trying to be installed. =S Might be a regression, who knows, not my problem now (I should be nicer). Well then, I wasn't crazy after all, I don't like being crazy. (guessing it might actually install grub2 but apparently has issues with using it? don't know, didn't write the AIF nor do I write the current scripts, not my problem as I said).
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Arch rules! I felt like a KING when it finally booted to the GUI!

I tried the new way lol on a VM and was lost soooo quickly lol but i am relevantly moderate to Linux but noob to arch!

Shrak a new guide would rule!thumb.gif
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