Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [GSMA] Dead Trigger is now free on Android, devs blame rampant piracy on Android
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[GSMA] Dead Trigger is now free on Android, devs blame rampant piracy on Android - Page 4

post #31 of 79
7/23/12 at 12:01pm
this makes no sense, i know how to get apps for free but i never do it because i love the android OS and i want to support the developers making content for it.
Most of my friends using android dont even have a clue that they could pirate apps so they are just saying no to a pile of money.
The Green Machine
(16 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz 22nm 6MB MSI Z77A-G43 GTX 460 Corsair 2x4Gb DDR3 1600MHz CL9 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB cheap and still works (DVD) Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Xubuntu & Windows 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 23,6" 1920x1080p Steelseries G6v2 Corsair TX750 HAF 922 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G9x Gigabyte Ghost Asus Xonar DG 5.1 Zalman 6 Fan controller 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
The Green Machine
(16 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz 22nm 6MB MSI Z77A-G43 GTX 460 Corsair 2x4Gb DDR3 1600MHz CL9 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Black 1TB cheap and still works (DVD) Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Xubuntu & Windows 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Acer 23,6" 1920x1080p Steelseries G6v2 Corsair TX750 HAF 922 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G9x Gigabyte Ghost Asus Xonar DG 5.1 Zalman 6 Fan controller 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #32 of 79
7/23/12 at 1:59pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by lordikon View Post


Was there a demo/free version of Dead Trigger before they made this version free? I'm curious how many people may have pirated the game just to try it out and then hated it so they didn't buy it, so the piracy stats the developer is looking at may be giving them a false sense of how many purchases they've actually lost.

Well, in this case. Not that I pirate games on my phone or anything else, but I've plays this and it seems there's a lot about the micro transactions involved in the game. While I don't condone pirating a game just because (though the demo excuse works) I also don't condone paying for a game that's heavily based on MT's.
The Riginator
(20 items)
 
Samsung Galaxy S3
(6 items)
 
For Sale: [UK] WinTV NOVA-HD-S2 Satellite card + BFG 3D Fusion 6200 AGP
£40 (GBP) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500k 4.5GHz @ 1.31v P8P67 PRO MSI GTX670 Twin Frozr Power Edition OC 2GB 12GB (2x4GB 2x8GB) Mushkin Enhanced 1600MHz DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 4 128GB SSD 1x320GB Western Digital Caviar Black 2x500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 Pioneer DVD-RW Drive Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Windows 7 Professional 64bit 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Xubuntu 12.04 x86_64 Hanspree HG1115 1080p HDTV Microsoft Curve Coolermaster GX 550W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Coolermaster Storm Sniper Coolermaster Storm Sentinel Razer Goliathus Creative XtremeGamer 7.1 
View all
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Exynos 4412 Quad Core ARMv7 Cortex-A9 @1.4GHz ARM Mali-400 MP4 1 GB LP DDR2 Green Memory Samsung KMVTU000LM eMMC(16GB)+MDDR(64MB) NAND F... 
OSMonitor
UltimaROM XXDLJ5 Jelly Bean 4.1.1 4.8" 720x1280 HD Super AMOLED 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
The Riginator
(20 items)
 
Samsung Galaxy S3
(6 items)
 
For Sale: [UK] WinTV NOVA-HD-S2 Satellite card + BFG 3D Fusion 6200 AGP
£40 (GBP) or best offer
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 2500k 4.5GHz @ 1.31v P8P67 PRO MSI GTX670 Twin Frozr Power Edition OC 2GB 12GB (2x4GB 2x8GB) Mushkin Enhanced 1600MHz DDR3 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
OCZ Vertex 4 128GB SSD 1x320GB Western Digital Caviar Black 2x500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 Pioneer DVD-RW Drive Coolermaster Hyper 212+ Windows 7 Professional 64bit 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Xubuntu 12.04 x86_64 Hanspree HG1115 1080p HDTV Microsoft Curve Coolermaster GX 550W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Coolermaster Storm Sniper Coolermaster Storm Sentinel Razer Goliathus Creative XtremeGamer 7.1 
View all
CPUGraphicsRAMHard Drive
Exynos 4412 Quad Core ARMv7 Cortex-A9 @1.4GHz ARM Mali-400 MP4 1 GB LP DDR2 Green Memory Samsung KMVTU000LM eMMC(16GB)+MDDR(64MB) NAND F... 
OSMonitor
UltimaROM XXDLJ5 Jelly Bean 4.1.1 4.8" 720x1280 HD Super AMOLED 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #33 of 79
7/23/12 at 4:02pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post

Yes, it's Android's fault that there are people in the world without the moral decency to pay for things.

First of all Google hasn't made any necessary steps to secure its phone. There .apk format is a joke and can be easily decrypted to open as a new project in eclipse. If you design your app with proprietary code and deploy it in Google Play store, anyone can reuse the code that you used. This is completely atrocious. Android must die soon. The only good Google product is "Google Search" nothing else.
Big Boss(2010)
(15 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920@3.4ghz@stockV Asus Rampage II Extreme Zotac GTX480 G.Skill Ripjaws 24gb 1600 9-9-9-24@1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 640gbX2 raid0,Raptors 300gb raid0,WD 2tb & 1tb Dvd writer,i don't need it i live a digital life Windows 8 Professinal x64 Asus VG236H 120hz 3d, Asus PA246Q 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft standard button smashing keyboard LOVEIT Corsair Hx750 Antec 1200 Black MX518,G500,SW X8,Death Adder 3G & Imperator 4G 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steel Series QCK Large - Dota 2 Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Champion Speakers: Z-5500 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Big Boss(2010)
(15 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920@3.4ghz@stockV Asus Rampage II Extreme Zotac GTX480 G.Skill Ripjaws 24gb 1600 9-9-9-24@1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 640gbX2 raid0,Raptors 300gb raid0,WD 2tb & 1tb Dvd writer,i don't need it i live a digital life Windows 8 Professinal x64 Asus VG236H 120hz 3d, Asus PA246Q 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft standard button smashing keyboard LOVEIT Corsair Hx750 Antec 1200 Black MX518,G500,SW X8,Death Adder 3G & Imperator 4G 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steel Series QCK Large - Dota 2 Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Champion Speakers: Z-5500 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #34 of 79
7/23/12 at 4:08pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryWin View Post

iOS is not exactly secure against piracy either...

No, but iOS devs are vastly more successful on that platform than Android.
Reply
Reply
post #35 of 79
7/23/12 at 4:16pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by meetajhu View Post

First of all Google hasn't made any necessary steps to secure its phone. There .apk format is a joke and can be easily decrypted to open as a new project in eclipse. If you design your app with proprietary code and deploy it in Google Play store, anyone can reuse the code that you used. This is completely atrocious. Android must die soon. The only good Google product is "Google Search" nothing else.


Umm... that's not even remotely true. Yes, APKs are just containers, its no different than the .app format in OSX or the folder structure of Windows.


Android code is compiled just like on any other platform (its just using bytecode instead of machine code since its Java). Using your same logic I could just as easily open up Diablo III.exe in Visual Studio and steal Blizzard's source code.
I am not a Corsair fanboy :/ (Now with 25% less Corsair!!!)
(20 items)
 
Gary Bettman is a douchenozzle. (NHL 2013-2013 season thread)
(1 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 3800MHz EVGA P55-SLI FTW Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB Corsair Dominator 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston Hyper-X OCZ Vertex 3 WD6401AALS Seagate 7200.10 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD5000AAKS Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 [SSD] Xubuntu [WD Black] 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG W2442PA-BF Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair HX750W 
CaseMouse
Corsair Graphite 600T Logitech G5 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
I am not a Corsair fanboy :/ (Now with 25% less Corsair!!!)
(20 items)
 
Gary Bettman is a douchenozzle. (NHL 2013-2013 season thread)
(1 photos)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 3800MHz EVGA P55-SLI FTW Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB Corsair Dominator 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston Hyper-X OCZ Vertex 3 WD6401AALS Seagate 7200.10 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
WD5000AAKS Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Pro x64 [SSD] Xubuntu [WD Black] 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG W2442PA-BF Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM Microsoft Sidewinder X4 Corsair HX750W 
CaseMouse
Corsair Graphite 600T Logitech G5 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #36 of 79
7/23/12 at 4:16pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by meetajhu View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post

Yes, it's Android's fault that there are people in the world without the moral decency to pay for things.

First of all Google hasn't made any necessary steps to secure its phone. There .apk format is a joke and can be easily decrypted to open as a new project in eclipse. If you design your app with proprietary code and deploy it in Google Play store, anyone can reuse the code that you used. This is completely atrocious. Android must die soon. The only good Google product is "Google Search" nothing else.
No. First of all should be that people should be ashamed for using that excuse. If it weren't for ingrates, there would be no need for security.
BladeRunner v2.2
(18 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 920 ASUS P6T Gigabyte GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970  OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
OCZ Vertex 3 MaxIOPS Western Digital Caviar Black LG WH08LS20 Samsung SH-S203N 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Black Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit BenQ V2400W Logitech G15 v1 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Ultra X3 1000W Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Logitech G5 None 
AudioAudio
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Logitech Z-2300 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
BladeRunner v2.2
(18 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 920 ASUS P6T Gigabyte GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970  OCZ XMP Ready DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
OCZ Vertex 3 MaxIOPS Western Digital Caviar Black LG WH08LS20 Samsung SH-S203N 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Black Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit BenQ V2400W Logitech G15 v1 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Ultra X3 1000W Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Logitech G5 None 
AudioAudio
Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Logitech Z-2300 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #37 of 79
7/23/12 at 4:22pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathris View Post

Umm... that's not even remotely true. Yes, APKs are just containers, its no different than the .app format in OSX or the folder structure of Windows.
Android code is compiled just like on any other platform (its just using bytecode instead of machine code since its Java). Using your same logic I could just as easily open up Diablo III.exe in Visual Studio and steal Blizzard's source code.

I'm talking about apps natively made using Java. The project can directly be opened in eclipse. Yes iOS can be directly open just by renaming.ipa to .zip. But you can't do anything than just viewing files like windows applications.
Edited by meetajhu - 7/24/12 at 3:32am
Big Boss(2010)
(15 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920@3.4ghz@stockV Asus Rampage II Extreme Zotac GTX480 G.Skill Ripjaws 24gb 1600 9-9-9-24@1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 640gbX2 raid0,Raptors 300gb raid0,WD 2tb & 1tb Dvd writer,i don't need it i live a digital life Windows 8 Professinal x64 Asus VG236H 120hz 3d, Asus PA246Q 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft standard button smashing keyboard LOVEIT Corsair Hx750 Antec 1200 Black MX518,G500,SW X8,Death Adder 3G & Imperator 4G 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steel Series QCK Large - Dota 2 Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Champion Speakers: Z-5500 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Big Boss(2010)
(15 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 920@3.4ghz@stockV Asus Rampage II Extreme Zotac GTX480 G.Skill Ripjaws 24gb 1600 9-9-9-24@1.5v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
WD 640gbX2 raid0,Raptors 300gb raid0,WD 2tb & 1tb Dvd writer,i don't need it i live a digital life Windows 8 Professinal x64 Asus VG236H 120hz 3d, Asus PA246Q 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Microsoft standard button smashing keyboard LOVEIT Corsair Hx750 Antec 1200 Black MX518,G500,SW X8,Death Adder 3G & Imperator 4G 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steel Series QCK Large - Dota 2 Edition Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Champion Speakers: Z-5500 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #38 of 79
7/23/12 at 4:46pm
Even if this is true, wouldn't they still make more money in any case if they left it as $1 rather than free?
Cool'n'Quiet
(9 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-3770T Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD4H GeForce GT 640 (fanless) Mushkin 2x 8GB DDR3 1600 CL8 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 256GB 840 Pro SSD Noctua NH-U9B SE2 Linux Mint Debian Edition 201303 64-bit SeaSonic 400W 80+Platinum (fanless) 
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Cool'n'Quiet
(9 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7-3770T Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD4H GeForce GT 640 (fanless) Mushkin 2x 8GB DDR3 1600 CL8 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Samsung 256GB 840 Pro SSD Noctua NH-U9B SE2 Linux Mint Debian Edition 201303 64-bit SeaSonic 400W 80+Platinum (fanless) 
Case
Corsair Obsidian 550D 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #39 of 79
7/23/12 at 5:00pm
Guys remember to keep the condoning and admitting to piracy out of this thread please.
Cheers
Reply
Reply
post #40 of 79
7/23/12 at 5:01pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by CryWin View Post

iOS is not exactly secure against piracy either...
Not completely but you have to be jail broken.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rafety58 View Post

This makes no sense to me. Wouldn't there be just as much piracy on the IOS as android?
Nope. See above.
Quote:
Originally Posted by SectorNine50 View Post

This is an absolutely nonsense excuse.

You don't make something free because of piracy, that's just dumb. Why give up on the profits you were getting (cut off your nose to spite your face, comes to mind)? It's almost like the developer is having a temper tantrum.

Plus, how "rampant" is piracy on Android devices, really? I don't think I've encountered one person in my life who pirates software on their phone. I can't imagine the effort to avoid paying $0.99 would be worth it.
It's probably being pirated so much that his profit is incredibly low. Making it free allows everyone to use it (which is basically happening anyway) and you get free advertising of sorts... it's a good game and people will keep an eye out for the second one.
Reply
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Video Game News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Video Game News › [GSMA] Dead Trigger is now free on Android, devs blame rampant piracy on Android