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I'm thinking of getting a puretrak Talent for a G400 & an A4tech X7-F3(same Pixart sensor in the kinzu v2) and a pair of HD skates for the g400, so can anyone comment on build quality? or suggest any alternatives that ship to the Philippines?
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I have a Talent and I've tried the HD skates as well.

The pad is solid. Very low resistance, after a thorough cleaning it still feels new. Problems with very few sensors (though I can't be sure about your x7-f3). Performance with a G400 is good. Size is acceptable and I'm ~40 cm/180.

EDIT: The only mouse I own with a pixart sensor is the Kova+, which I believe has a PAW3305DK-H. The mouse doesn't perform that well overall, so I really can't say how it does specifically on a Talent.

As for cost, I still prefer a Qck+ but I have never regretted buying a Talent.

I'd skip the skates, though, unless you're looking to slow things down a bit. They most definitely are not slippery.
Edited by derrison - 7/24/12 at 9:57am
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Well the quick mini I'm using right now cost $19 here :/

I just wan't to buy the skates so I'll have spares and noone seems to sell spares locally.. so *knock on wood* if my g400 does outlast them I'll be stuck. know of any sites that do ship to my country that can both sell me a good mouse pad and some skates? I've mainly thought of puretrak since they said that as long as it's a small order I don't have to pay any VAT ^_^

Also when you say that the skates are grippy then you mean they're even grippier than the stock skates of the G400?

The X7 sensor is the same one found on the Kinzu v2 and the Zowie Mico as far as I know.
Edited by bobuy00 - 7/24/12 at 10:15am
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Well the quick mini I'm using right now cost $19 here :/
I just wan't to buy the skates so I'll have spares and noone seems to sell spares locally.. so *knock on wood* if my g400 does outlast them I'll be stuck. know of any sites that do ship to my country that can both sell me a good mouse pad and some skates? I've mainly thought of puretrak since they said that as long as it's a small order I don't have to pay any VAT ^_^
Also when you say that the skates are grippy then you mean they're even grippier than the stock skates of the G400?
The X7 sensor is the same one found on the Kinzu v2 and the Zowie Mico as far as I know.

Don't get me wrong: the Talent is a fantastic pad and you will not be disappointed. If it is the easiest to get where you reside, by all means, get one.

The skates have a very unique feel. They offer more control over speed, but I wouldn't say they're "bad" based solely on this. It's dependent on your playstyle. Honestly, the talent is slick enough where using the HD skates provides a solid balance. They are a reasonable alternative to Hyperglides.
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I sent Puretrak and email asking if their feet would fit my G400. At the time they incorrectly showed one set of feet fitting the G5 and the G400 which have different sized feet. They responded saying that the feet were actually g400 feet so I ordered them. They sent me G5 feet anyways and never sent me a set of the correct G400 feet to correct their fail either. Now it looks like they have finally fixed their website and list the G400 feet correctly so you should be fine getting the right feet. They aren't rounded though.

But, as much as I dislike Puretrak as a company for their Valor nightmare and their screw up with bad customer service I cannot deny the fact that the Talent is genuinely an awesome product. It lasted longer than any of my cloth pads by far and I have used MANY. It is well worth the price premium over pads like the Qck which wear out quickly.
Edited by Derp - 7/24/12 at 5:38pm
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What other brands/sellers ship to my country and for a reasonable price?
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The Talent is the best soft pad I have ever used, and it's pretty resilient. The puretrak perfectglides pair well with this pad. Even though they aren't very durable, the soft smooth surface of the Talent really doesn't deteriorate them that badly and they sustain a pretty good glide over months and are ridiculously cheap to replace. The HD glides on the other hand are annoying. They aren't rounded like perfectglides, and on a soft-pad like the Talent will cause all sorts of scrapping at the slightest pressure, completely removing any 'slickness' benefit of the pure teflon, and really doing a number on the surface of your Talent. They also have a ridiculous amount of lift-off. Taller even than hyperglides. Maybe they shine on a hard-pad that has no give. Even on a G-TF Speed and it's slight cushion it scrapes around.

Stay away from the HD glides. Talent + perfectglides are a good combo though I wouldn't consider perfectglides good skates for any other pad as they will just get torn apart and you will be replacing them weekly.
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If the HD's problem is the edges isnt there a way to manually round them? A file maybe? If not, how do perfectglides stand to a SS QcK? Since I'd probably be using that occasionaly.
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post #9 of 13
i have a talent + HD skates for my DA 3.5 and it's hands down my favorite combo. been through the better part of 9 cloth pads ranging from artistian to zowie and still prefer the feel of the the talent over all of them. it honestly comes down to the smooth but balanced feel of the glide.

with the HD skates.... you guys have got to understand that these have a break in period before they start feeling insanely fast. i wondered the same thing when i got mine but sent an email to puretrak asking what was up. here is their response:
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"Hello *********,

Thank you for contacting PureTrak! Due to the thickness of the skate and the way our tooling is designed, it's close to impossible to round the edge of the skate as that is usually done when the die casts the skate during production. When we attempted to round the skate during production, most of the skates had a "bowed" effect making it basically useless for after market application. With that said though... our PerfectGlide | HD line is our most popular line and our customers are finding that it takes only a few short hours of gaming for the skates to naturally round themselves. If natural rounding isn't occurring or you simply just want to skip this break in period, taking the edge of your finger nail/desk and about 30 seconds of your time rounds it as well.

I hope this helps! As always, if you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us at anytime. Thanks!"
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This is more complex than it sounds, and the lift-off is still very high. I have a handful of ime 3.0 HD's (36 remaining skates to test with) and the edges aren't the only problem. The lift-off is a huge issue too. Plus getting an even rounding on tiny skates is complicated. A ton of time and work, and even when you get them usable they are still scrapey and high lift-off. Rounding might work on some other skates, but these are so tall that the amount of rounding is pretty aggressive and time consuming. Believe me, I have experimented with this on days off and it's just impossible. Hours perfecting IME 3.0 skates to get null positive results. I will send you some of my HD's for shipping if you want to take a look at them. They are IME 3.0 skates but in the right configuration should work on any mouse.

Also, it takes like 3 weeks of vigourous use to wear-out some perfectglides on a Talent. I don't think a Talent could EVER break in some HD glides. They are pure teflon surface. I dunno how long it takes to rub some silk-like material over teflon to deteriorate it...but i imagine the silk is going to give in before the teflon.
Edited by czerro - 7/28/12 at 6:16am
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