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I need a new gaming computer. My 'custom built' knowledge is out of date (current system is an Athlon 64 3200+).

What I'm asking for in this thread is any tidbits of current info that system builders should be aware of...

What chipsets are out that I should focus on? Is something about to come out that maybe I should wait for? AMD or Intel? ATI or nVidia? What speed memory?

I'm not necessarily wanting people to do research for me, or look for the deals, just general knowledge.

I don't want to buy something now and in a couple of months something that breaks the mold gets released (IE: buying an Intel processor right before the ?Sandy? came out).

I don't want to buy an unstable chipset.

Etc, etc.
post #2 of 11
This really depends on you. If you answer the following questions we can guide you towards the chipset that is best for you:
What is your budget for the tower?
What will you be using the rig for?
What resolution will you be running it on?
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As an AMD CPU user....

AMD isn't bad if you're looking for something at a much lower cost, but I would recommend going Intel for the time being.

I'd say get a MSI, ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard with the Z77 Chipset (1155 socket) and either a 3570K or 3770K (if you're feeling fancy) processor.

As for memory, 1600 is enough for most people, 1866 would probably be the limit of what most people would actually need, but this all does depend on things like overall budget and so forth.

Graphics cards are much more power efficient than previous generations, so this means 1000W power supplies are often unneeded. You could do SLI or Crossfire with a 650W PSU with either Nvidia GTX 670s or AMD 7870s as an example. Currently there really isn't much difference in performance between the two gpu makers, so I would just get whatever tickles your whistle, personally I lean towards the Green Team (Nvidia). As for power supplies, Corsair, Seasonic and Antec are usually good power supplies to invest your money in.

The argument could be made that next AMD 8350 processor will be a huge improvement over the disappointing 8150, I personally wouldn't hold my breath... if you don't mind waiting for a few months you could see how the new AMD CPU stacks up.

All of this does depend on how much you're willing to spend though. A couple things I wouldn't cheap out on though would be:

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post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by VW_TDI_02 View Post

This really depends on you. If you answer the following questions we can guide you towards the chipset that is best for you:
What is your budget for the tower?
What will you be using the rig for?
What resolution will you be running it on?
I'm not necessarily wanting to be 'guided' to the best chipset. I want to get some info to be able to make an informed decision on my own.

I don't know the budget.

It'll be used for everything that a power user does. Gaming and video/audio encoding are probably the two highest intensity tasks.

Right now I'm using a 20" monitor.
post #5 of 11
If you dont want to spend Loads Mabey Go for a 8 Core FX or A 6 Cores Phenom (1075T,1090T,1100T) If you can find one.
Do you know That Most Amount of money you want to spend this will help Us ?
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post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by fofamit View Post

As an AMD CPU user....
AMD isn't bad if you're looking for something at a much lower cost, but I would recommend going Intel for the time being.
I'd say get a MSI, ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard with the Z77 Chipset (1155 socket) and either a 3570K or 3770K (if you're feeling fancy) processor.
As for memory, 1600 is enough for most people, 1866 would probably be the limit of what most people would actually need, but this all does depend on things like overall budget and so forth.
Graphics cards are much more power efficient than previous generations, so this means 1000W power supplies are often unneeded. You could do SLI or Crossfire with a 650W PSU with either Nvidia GTX 670s or AMD 7870s as an example. Currently there really isn't much difference in performance between the two gpu makers, so I would just get whatever tickles your whistle, personally I lean towards the Green Team (Nvidia). As for power supplies, Corsair, Seasonic and Antec are usually good power supplies to invest your money in.
The argument could be made that next AMD 8350 processor will be a huge improvement over the disappointing 8150, I personally wouldn't hold my breath... if you don't mind waiting for a few months you could see how the new AMD CPU stacks up.
All of this does depend on how much you're willing to spend though. A couple things I wouldn't cheap out on though would be:
Power Supply
Monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
Yes, this is near exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! smile.gif

I'm not interested in SLI or Crossfire (however I'd certainly get a motherboard that could support it).

For the processor.. I would spend a bit more to get to the head of the line. You see how long I've made my system last (honestly, while there are plenty of things that I'd love to improve the performance on, only Guild Wars 2 is making me feel the need to do something about it now). Back when I got it, the 3200+ was a high end processor.

Why are you singling out the Z77 chipset?

Also, those processors are Ivy bridge.. didn't Sandy bridge just come out?
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Originally Posted by Adrenaline View Post

If you dont want to spend Loads Mabey Go for a 8 Core FX or A 6 Cores Phenom (1075T,1090T,1100T) If you can find one.
Do you know That Most Amount of money you want to spend this will help Us ?
Another reason this is hard to state is because I don't know the prices of individual components these days. I'm not broke, but I'm not rich and not able to throw away money. I'll spend more to better future proof myself.
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Originally Posted by Asrial View Post

Yes, this is near exactly what I'm looking for, thanks! smile.gif
I'm not interested in SLI or Crossfire (however I'd certainly get a motherboard that could support it).
For the processor.. I would spend a bit more to get to the head of the line. You see how long I've made my system last (honestly, while there are plenty of things that I'd love to improve the performance on, only Guild Wars 2 is making me feel the need to do something about it now). Back when I got it, the 3200+ was a high end processor.
Why are you singling out the Z77 chipset?
Also, those processors are Ivy bridge.. didn't Sandy bridge just come out?

Sandybridge did just come out... kind of, but Ivy Bridge is the successor. To be Honest, Sandybridge would still make a pretty beefy system if you want to save some money.

The Z77 chipset would be much better for having the option to go with multiple gpus in the future, and would probably offer better overclocking options. The H77 chipset is essentially just a scaled back version better suited for single card performance.

For a power supply prepare to spend around $100, don't cheap out on this component, because if you get a cheapy... when it goes it could take the rest of your internal components with it.

Depending on your needs a decent motherboard (Ivy/Sandy 1155, AM3+ 990FX) can range from the $130 to $250.

If you need a new case, you should think about what you want to fit in it, do you want room for possibly going multi-graphics card? As well as overall build quality and layout. Generally for a mid-tower roughly $70 to $130 is enough.

When it comes to monitors, just think of them as one of the parts that you'll probably hold onto the longest, the part that you'll looking at for a number of years. So get something that gives decent performance. Right now 1080p seems to be the "in" resolution, so I would at least get something with that. When it comes to price, size model, it all depends on your needs, personally I really like what Samsung is doing right now and I think 23/24" is a good size.

As for keyboard and mouse, it really does depend (and if you need a new one) Just don't get a cheap $10 keyboard, you'll probably regret it. For non-mechanical keyboards spending around the $20-50 range is pretty common. Since you mentioned guild wars, I would get a mouse that has one of those side buttons that you can hit with your thumb for voice chatting push to talk. (pet peeve against hearing people breathe while playing a game with them >_>; )
Edited by fofamit - 7/25/12 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by Asrial View Post

Another reason this is hard to state is because I don't know the prices of individual components these days. I'm not broke, but I'm not rich and not able to throw away money. I'll spend more to better future proof myself.
Oh Which Country Do you live in? smile.gif
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post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by fofamit View Post

Sandybridge did just come out... kind of, but Ivy Bridge is the successor. To be Honest, Sandybridge would still make a pretty beefy system if you want to save some money.
The Z77 chipset would be much better for having the option to go with multiple gpus in the future, and would probably offer better overclocking options. The H77 chipset is essentially just a scaled back version better suited for single card performance.
For a power supply prepare to spend around $100, don't cheap out on this component, because if you get a cheapy... when it goes it could take the rest of your internal components with it.
Depending on your needs a decent motherboard (Ivy/Sandy 1155, AM3+ 990FX) can range from the $130 to $250.
If you need a new case, you should think about what you want to fit in it, do you want room for possibly going multi-graphics card? As well as overall build quality and layout. Generally for a mid-tower roughly $70 to $130 is enough.
When it comes to monitors, just think of them as one of the parts that you'll probably hold onto the longest, the part that you'll looking at for a number of years. So get something that gives decent performance. Right now 1080p seems to be the "in" resolution, so I would at least get something with that. When it comes to price, size model, it all depends on your needs, personally I really like what Samsung is doing right now and I think 23/24" is a good size.
As for keyboard and mouse, it really does depend (and if you need a new one) Just don't get a cheap $10 keyboard, you'll probably regret it. For non-mechanical keyboards spending around the $20-50 range is pretty common. Since you mentioned guild wars, I would get a mouse that has one of those side buttons that you can hit with your thumb for voice chatting push to talk. (pet peeve against hearing people breathe while playing a game with them >_>; )
Thanks for the info smile.gif

I completely agree about the power supply being one of the critical components.
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Originally Posted by Adrenaline View Post

Oh Which Country Do you live in? smile.gif
The US. Please don't think I'm saying I'm rich biggrin.gif I'm just willing (and able) to spend a bit more on this.

I'll poke around and see what I can find and post here again asking for thoughts about things.
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