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If you put it that way, any keyboard is fine for gaming really.
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=BLK-ACK-573-PS2&cpc=RESX

there are reasons to prefer mechanical keyboards beyond noise
post #62 of 79
the keyboard is good but my experience with their mouse is really bad so will see.
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It's not even over the 9000 dpi mark. That's terrible. I'm not buying this.
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there are reasons to prefer mechanical keyboards beyond noise

Sure there are. When I was talking about the keyboard in my earlier post, I was referring to both the functionality and feel of the keyboard as well as the noise it makes.

So please do share. I'd like to know what makes you think the Razer Black Widow Ultimate with MX Blue Cherry keys is so wonderful. Is it the force required? The MX Brown is lighter at 45g. Is it the distance to actuation? The MX Brown has the same 2mm distance to actuation. Is it the 5 macro button layout on the side? There are much better options when it comes to macro layout.

So what is it? The MX Brown doesn't make the *clackity clack* noise that the MX Blue does. Oh, and all the Cherry keys are mechanical. And hence, Razer's switch to the MX Brown keys (Even Razer thinks the Cherry Blue is inferior so I don't know what the argument here is).
Edited by Mondrayish - 7/26/12 at 10:54pm
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Putting your argument aside for a second, is it worth waiting for the 2013 ultimate stealth edition over buying the normal ultimate stealth edition now, even if the wait is only a few weeks?

Aside from the upgraded 10 simultaneous key presses, with synapses being useless to me, there doesn't seem to be much of an upgrade as the old stealth edition already has a matte finish.
Then there's the green back light which I'm not entirely fond of. Should I go for the old one for the more favorable blue back light or is the 2013 really worth waiting for?
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Looks uncomfortable if you were to put your palm on it.
On the other hand, my Diamondback and Iperator rock ****.
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Huh? Was that a typo? The new one is Cherry MX Brown to replace the old noisy Cherry MX Blue.
The Cherry MX Blue wasn't even designed for gaming. Not sure why people even bought into it specially when it retails at US$129.99... I guess if it says "Razer", "For Gamers By Gamers", and "Ultimate", then it must be for gaming lol.
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http://www.overclockers.com/mechanical-keyboard-showdown
Had a friend that bought the 1st gen Blackwidow Ultimate. It was the noisiest piece of junk of a keyboard I ever used lol.

Have you ever played a game with MX Blues? Because I absolutely loved them for playing games. I think the Blacks (and maybe the Reds) are the only switches Cherry intended to be used for games. Remember, keyboards are for typing first and foremost, so when Cherry designed their switches, that's what they had in mind. The Blacks have such a high actuation force that people use them for games so they don't accidentally press things. But the actuation force of the Blues is fine, and the best part is the click tells you without a doubt exactly when you pushed the key. No more doubts if a double-press registered properly or if some macro didn't go through right.

Unless you've used Blues to play games, don't rag on them. And if you did use them and idslike them, that doesn't mean they're bad. My Filco Otaku with Blues was the absolute perfect gaming keyboard for me, but the blank keycaps became enough of an annoyance in everyday use that I sold it. I fully intend to get either Blues or Reds on my next keyboard, but I want to try all of the switches in person somewhere, to see if Blue is still my favorite, or if something else works better for how I type and how I play.
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So please do share. I'd like to know what makes you think the Razer Black Widow Ultimate with MX Blue Cherry keys is so wonderful. Is it the force required? The MX Brown is lighter at 45g. Is it the distance to actuation? The MX Brown has the same 2mm distance to actuation. Is it the 5 macro button layout on the side? There are much better options when it comes to macro layout.
So what is it? The MX Brown doesn't make the *clackity clack* noise that the MX Blue does. Oh, and all the Cherry keys are mechanical. And hence, Razer's switch to the MX Brown keys (Even Razer thinks the Cherry Blue is inferior so I don't know what the argument here is).

Between blues and browns there is only a 5g difference in force, they both travel 2mm, 4 to the bottom as far as I'm aware. The blue is preferred for typing, hence the click clack for audio feedback, the browns are the middle ground between typing and gaming, and black & red are suppose to be the best.
I've been using Blues for FPS, RTS, MMO, and everything in between, I've yet to have a single problem making complex movements because of my switch type. In quite a few cases hearing and feeling the click help me in games, the more feedback the better.
The only people who complain about blues in gaming are the ones who haven't used them.
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Razer- Like the rest of the critically acclaimed Razer BlackWidow line-up, the core feature of the Tournament Edition keyboard is its blue switch mechanical key infrastructure. Crisp, distinctive tactile feedback at the fingertips, rapid-fire keystroke actuations faster than an opponent can react, and improved anti-ghosting, makes this the only keyboard to match the unrelentingly fast reflexes and instincts of the best pro-gamers.

Razer doesn't seem to think so either.
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Just out of curiosity, how many of you guys can honestly tell the difference between the different sensors, Avago and Philips Twin Eye etc.?

No doubt, some of the Razer peripherals look sexy. But how many of you guys actually play competitively in tournaments and feel that without Razer's peripherals, you would hands down lose, no contest?

AFAIK, most pro gamers are still using the Microsoft's Intellimouse, DeathAdder, and a couple of them Abyssus. Personally I use a Naga, but only because that's the only mouse that has what I consider an ergonomic 12 button interface for the thumb.

How much of your purchase decision is affected by the novelty of the product and how much of it is affected by the actual user experience in relation to competition? Or are you just an adoring fan of Razer who supports any of their products regardless of quality?

When i had a rat7 my average kdr fell from 2.5 (FPS w/o health regen and death is 3-4 shots) to under 1. I threw it out my 20th floor window lol

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THE KEYBOARD. LOOKS SO GOOD. COSTS SO MUCH. I LOVE GREEN.

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