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Don't try to explain free market economics to him, his head will explode. You know, we gotta show compassion and all that crap....

Yes...free market capitalism....

You do realise what happens when the rich gets infinitely richer vs. the middle class right?
You do know that the economic crisis was due to free-market laissez-faire capitalism right and the lack of regulations?

Trying to explain actual facts to this guys, his head will explode.
    
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1. Last I checked the Soviet Union was run by leftists (as well as Cuba, China, Iran, Venezuela). You know, all those places you'd NEVER want to live.

One's a theocracy, the other is only 'communist' by name and name only (China)..
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2. You live in it. This is the most economically advanced and successful country in the history of the world. That didn't come about by robbing successful people to give to leeches.

Yeah, it came via slave labour of the Irish and Chinese (First Transcontinental Railroad) and African Americans, with demand from Britain and later on from the North (the North was the processing centre of cotton, while the South was the farming). Later on, it came via the USA not being blown up to pieces during WWII (and the gearing for war + that US industry supplied a good lot of Soviet gear pre 1943) and the establishment of the US dollar as the 'world currency' via Bretton Woods, + the usual exploitation of other countries and politics for US businesses (e.g. Banana republic intervention in Central America) that continues to this day.
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4. And what happened once Ronald Reagan lowered those draconian rates in 1981? Oh that's right, the greatest expansion of our country's economy in its history.

Yeah, nothing to do with the reliance on cheap oil and Reagan's presidency being post 1970's oil crisis right...
and the fact that income tax, beyond when excess taxation causes income tax to decrease (~70%), has little to do with growth right?

Yay parody Laffer curve

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5. Anywhere liberal Democrats run things turns into a "jobless ghetto". See: New Orleans, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, Philadelphia, the entire state of California and on and on and on....

Yeah.. Detroit....nothing to do with the decline of the car industry (which was caused by 'free markets!!!'), nor with New Orleans a slight storm going through the middle of it right.....
    
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2. This is what Americans are preoccupied with convincing themselves, anyway.

Exactly.
    
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Fiscal conservative status?

[ ] - not told
[x] - told
[x] - Alan Toldspan
[x] - Toldman Sachs
[x] - told standard
[x] - occupy told street
 
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Amazing how many hoops you statists are willing to jump through to prove your fully discredited theories. The evidence sits right before you in the bankruptcy of Greece and the imminent collapse of the EU. Western European Socialism has bankrupted an entire continent and yet you spew your idiotic babble as if by rote. The only way this country manages to remain as powerful economically as it is is due to the free market.

You keep referring to Germany as your savior but Germany operates more like the US than any other European nation. It is Germany's free market banks that are expected to bail all of the rest of the irresponsible nations over there out of their malaise. But please, continue to delude yourself that socialism works. Vote for the most radical leftist President (Obama) who has ever held the office. He's done such a magnificent job on our economy so far hasn't he (8+% unemployment for over 40 months, 16 trillion in debt with nothing to show for it, food stamp and disability claims up over 300%)? rolleyes.gif
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Amazing how many hoops you statists are willing to jump through to prove your fully discredited theories. The evidence sits right before you in the bankruptcy of Greece and the imminent collapse of the EU. Western European Socialism has bankrupted an entire continent and yet you spew your idiotic babble as if by rote. The only way this country manages to remain as powerful economically as it is is due to the free market.

You keep referring to Germany as your savior but Germany operates more like the US than any other European nation. It is Germany's free market banks that are expected to bail all of the rest of the irresponsible nations over there out of their malaise. But please, continue to delude yourself that socialism works. Vote for the most radical leftist President (Obama) who has ever held the office. He's done such a magnificent job on our economy so far hasn't he (8+% unemployment for over 40 months, 16 trillion in debt with nothing to show for it, food stamp and disability claims up over 300%)? rolleyes.gif

Okay, it's obvious now, he's been subtly trolling us the whole time. We've been had, folks. frown.gif
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Aussies pay 10% tax on everything. EVERYTHING! frown.gif

That's funny.
We pay 20% tax on everything and ~ 70% tax on fuel.
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Yes...free market capitalism....
You do realise what happens when the rich gets infinitely richer vs. the middle class right?
You do know that the economic crisis was due to free-market laissez-faire capitalism right and the lack of regulations?
Trying to explain actual facts to this guys, his head will explode.

@Majin, re: Obama being radical left, there's no point arguing about politics, all the presidents since at least 2000 have been hardcore Keynesians. Look where that got us. And if you consider Keynesian economics "free-market", I can't help you. A good point to start might be reading up on Hayek and Friedman. http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=52

Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing to argue, nor necessarily disagreeing with anyone. But for example, Bush wasn't a fiscal conservative. Neither is Obama. Neither is Greenspan (arguably the biggest cause of the recession). So putting blame for any of this, on the free-market guys is just nonsense. It's clearly the Keynesians, regardless of their political party. http://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/bush-was-a-statist-not-a-conservative/
 
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Stop crying guys... I live in quebec and I pay 5% federal tax + 9.5% provincial tax

They are so dirty that they add the 9.5% on the base price+ the 5%

So let make an example for you guys smile.gif

I buy a brand new car at toyota

the car is 18 999$ without tax.

The car is 19 949$ after federal tax.

The car is 21 844$ after provincial tax

So you end up paying 21 844$-18 999$= 2845$ of taxes which is 15% of the base price

WE ARE TAXED 15% OF THE BASE PRICE AS BUYING TAX AND WE ARE THE MOST AND YET WE ARE THE PROVINCE WITH THE HIGHEST DEBT .... I HATE CORRUPTION AND YES IM MAD

CAUSE WE PAY 50% OF OUR DAMN SALARY AS TAXATION AS WELL....



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We haven't had a fiscal conservative in the WH since Reagan. And he was about the only one we've had in the past 60 years. Why else do you think the government is so totally and completely out of control? Leftists who believe not in the equality of opportunity but instead in the equality of outcomes will be the death of this great nation...
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