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Whats wrong with tegra? And is the acer a110 sold in the US?
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Nothing wrong with Tegra. There is the question as to whether 4 cores are currently necessary in tablets (as opposed to high speed dual cores, like the 1.5ghz dual core cpu in the new Kobo Arc). Also the Tegra 3 can be a bit of a battery hound.

The Acer A110 will be for sale in the US in a week or two.
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Whats wrong with tegra? And is the acer a110 sold in the US?

Nvidia's politics about drivers, and not-that-good performance once they get competitors. While i love my phone, and i have access to a Sony Tablet S and neither are bad products, it's just a personal opinion.

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Nothing wrong with Tegra. There is the question as to whether 4 cores are currently necessary in tablets (as opposed to high speed dual cores, like the 1.5ghz dual core cpu in the new Kobo Arc). Also the Tegra 3 can be a bit of a battery hound.

Couldn't have said it better biggrin.gif
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Ok... not sure how that makes it the best. All the Tegra 3 tablets I have (TF700T and the AT270) perform the same in benches as the Nexus 7 (TF700T is faster) and all are smooth in terms of application. Seeing as I briefly owned a Nexus 7, I was able to make direct comparisons. Then again, there are dozens of reviews on the net as well.
What differentiates tablets that use the same cpu is feature set, screen and build quality.
As such unless you can actually define why it's the best, I'd have to politely disagree. It's clear that when you quoted my comments you didn't bother to read them. Would you disagree with anything I stated specifically?
doesnt the nexus 7 has the highest score in geekbench 2, it even higher than the galaxy s3. and the build quality is pretty solid, dunno why others are having issues, i've has mine for about 2 months now. i know the sd card slot was a dissapointment for many, but for me 16 gb was enough, plus to use a usb via otg, there are other ways without rooting, i think there was an app for 2.49 AUD on google play which lets you do the same thing without rooting. cant remember the name though, ill try to find it though! plus you get the updates faster than any other tabs. Plus its got no bloatware cause its stock android (love it!) so yeah, its got everything a normal user would use but for some other users, it might fall a bit short but those could be fixed. and most other tegra 3 tabs do lag alot at times, but it rare on the nexus, heck even my transformer prime lags at times. to conclude, i wouldnt say its the best, but it one of them, but some people would disagree by saying its not even in the top and some would say its the best. so it depends on your taste and how it feels in YOUR hands.
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doesnt the nexus 7 has the highest score in geekbench 2, it even higher than the galaxy s3. and the build quality is pretty solid, dunno why others are having issues, i've has mine for about 2 months now. i know the sd card slot was a dissapointment for many, but for me 16 gb was enough, plus to use a usb via otg, there are other ways without rooting, i think there was an app for 2.49 AUD on google play which lets you do the same thing without rooting. cant remember the name though, ill try to find it though! plus you get the updates faster than any other tabs. Plus its got no bloatware cause its stock android (love it!) so yeah, its got everything a normal user would use but for some other users, it might fall a bit short but those could be fixed. and most other tegra 3 tabs do lag alot at times, but it rare on the nexus, heck even my transformer prime lags at times. to conclude, i wouldnt say its the best, but it one of them, but some people would disagree by saying its not even in the top and some would say its the best. so it depends on your taste and how it feels in YOUR hands.

I didn't have an issue with performance on the Nexus 7. I had lag issues with the Infinity TF700T (made by the same company mind you). My concerns about the Nexus 7 are build quality (seems to be hit or miss), the unit I had, had a raised screen on one side. It performed fine though. Also as you mentioned Micro SD missing is unfortunate. For many buyers 16GB could very well be plenty for now (as long as we are comfortable swapping files on and off it on a regular basis, given there is only about 12GB usable after system files). No MHL support or HDMI out via external device is a bit of a niche requirement. Either you need it or you don't. Ironically the 3 newest 7" tablets out; Kindle Fire HD, Nook HD and Acer Iconia A110 all have HDMI out in one form or another. The fact that it looks like pretty much every new tablet has HDMI out in some form indicates that it is becoming a standard feature.

I saw the rumors that the Nexus will be refreshing with more onboard storage at the same price point. That certainly helps but it still begs the question as to why Google intentionally omitted a micro SD slot. Every cell phone in existence has one, most tablets now have one (both my Samsung Tab 7.0+ and Toshiba Excite 7.7 have one). I assume Google's logic was that it would force owners to use their cloud storage.
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doesnt the nexus 7 has the highest score in geekbench 2, it even higher than the galaxy s3. and the build quality is pretty solid, dunno why others are having issues, i've has mine for about 2 months now. i know the sd card slot was a dissapointment for many, but for me 16 gb was enough, plus to use a usb via otg, there are other ways without rooting, i think there was an app for 2.49 AUD on google play which lets you do the same thing without rooting. cant remember the name though, ill try to find it though! plus you get the updates faster than any other tabs. Plus its got no bloatware cause its stock android (love it!) so yeah, its got everything a normal user would use but for some other users, it might fall a bit short but those could be fixed. and most other tegra 3 tabs do lag alot at times, but it rare on the nexus, heck even my transformer prime lags at times. to conclude, i wouldnt say its the best, but it one of them, but some people would disagree by saying its not even in the top and some would say its the best. so it depends on your taste and how it feels in YOUR hands.

I didn't have an issue with performance on the Nexus 7. I had lag issues with the Infinity TF700T (made by the same company mind you). My concerns about the Nexus 7 are build quality (seems to be hit or miss), the unit I had, had a raised screen on one side. It performed fine though. Also as you mentioned Micro SD missing is unfortunate. For many buyers 16GB could very well be plenty for now (as long as we are comfortable swapping files on and off it on a regular basis, given there is only about 12GB usable after system files). No MHL support or HDMI out via external device is a bit of a niche requirement. Either you need it or you don't. Ironically the 3 newest 7" tablets out; Kindle Fire HD, Nook HD and Acer Iconia A110 all have HDMI out in one form or another. The fact that it looks like pretty much every new tablet has HDMI out in some form indicates that it is becoming a standard feature.

I saw the rumors that the Nexus will be refreshing with more onboard storage at the same price point. That certainly helps but it still begs the question as to why Google intentionally omitted a micro SD slot. Every cell phone in existence has one, most tablets now have one (both my Samsung Tab 7.0+ and Toshiba Excite 7.7 have one). I assume Google's logic was that it would force owners to use their cloud storage.
Well yes, but the thing is that the nexus series is meant to have the best performance with the simplest design, that's how it's always been, it's not aimed at those high end customers who need all those features. And I also heard they are going to release the 32gb model soon. About the design issues, why not just be it from an actual store and not Google play cause if you have any issues, the store would replace it for you or give your money back instantly. And for the kindle fire hd, I thought you can't access the Google play with it, that would kinda ruin it for me and I've had some horrible experiences with some nook devices, the acer looks pretty good though.

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The Kindle Fire HD has access to the Amazon App store. Not as good as google play though.
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The Kindle Fire HD has access to the Amazon App store. Not as good as google play though.
So yeah, as I said before, every tab has their pros and cons
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Robilar, as a small request, maybe you could add which of these have cellular connectivity. Today i got a call from my provider, and due to my "long-standing history and good payment record" they gave me an extra SIM for data only, and 1 GB download for it (i'm still waiting for the catch). Still, i would like to have a Tablet that could use it.
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The Toshiba AT270 comes in 2 variants with and without (the 3G version is the AT275). Blackberry has 3G and 4G LTE versions (dropped it off my charts due to it's lower specs). Samsung used to provide a 3G version of their 7" but now it looks like only the 8.9" comes in a 3G version.

None of the other 7" tablets on my charts come with a 3G variant that I am aware of.
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