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hey guys ive been running aurora 2 red for about a month now..its turned chocolate brown..i ran a lemon juice mix threw my phobya rads 4 times and then a bi carb flush 4 times...the ph was 7 when i added my aurora and this still happens..what have i done wrong this time...thats twice its gone bad within a few months....what can i do now????i need a blitz part 1 but cant find any where in australia...can i run some kind of acid threw it before ???
i need some serious help its costing me a fortune buying new coolant every 3 months
here is a picture of the res with its chocolate brown coolant.... Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
20150329_1622561_zpsscuwhqul.jpg

what it looked like 1 month ago
20150311_1520401_zpsaw0iixcj.jpg
thanks

Most likely a flux issue if the red is turning brown. Phobya rads are manufactured by Alphacool. Alphacools are known for having... lets say resilient flux. You /should/ be able to source some part 1 from Mayhems website itself. If that doesn't work hydrochloric acid should work. I don't know for sure if part 2 would work all the same with a "homemade" part one, so to speak, so it'd be best to get some clarifications from Mick (mayhems) before doing anything like that.

You can read more about it here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1495977/getting-a-copper-radiator-squeaky-clean-101-with-some-chem-101-knowledge

That thread is also almost a year old so, you know, try to avoid necro resing it and what not. biggrin.gif

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You do realize that Aurora is a coolant for pictures or like tech shows like CES, PAX, etc right? Like it'll look cool for a short amount of time then...not so much

Yes and no.

The Aurora effect can last up to a year if your loop has been built with aurora in mind. The actual fluid can run for awhile even if the effect died out, though not as cool of course. It actually used to be x1 for the base.

The disclaimer that it is for shows and photo shoots, in my mind, is mainly to set expectations that the effect will die off after some time and isn't permanent.

Regardless of all of that, the color change is due to rad flux/pH problems and really has little to do with the fact that it was Aurora vs x1 vs pastel.
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Hey guys,
Looking for a bit of advice. first off my spec for you:-
Asus R5E
5960X
16GB Gskill 3200 DDR4
Mayhems 480 Rad
Koolance 450PMPS D5 pump
Koolance tube res with block for PMPS pump

Just wondering how much difference air in the system can make to temps - reason I ask is when testing at 4.4Ghz my temps have risen by about 10-12 degrees
from where they were. I have recently changed to hard-line tubing, but everything else remains the same. Ambient temps about 20 deg.

Could my tim have gone off suddenly(4 months old, when I built the rig) or could my chip have degraded? I don't run 4.4 all the time - usually dial back to 4 for everyday.
I have noticed the flow seems a bit slow for a d5 especially seeing as this one runs at 5700-5800rpm. Could it be a simple airlock, or should I re do the tim? Any other ideas?

Maybe the mayhems rad is more restrictive? used to use an Alphacool ut60 480.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Mark
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@Mayhem any plans of selling thin radiators? Just wondering... smile.gif
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post #10405 of 14152
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Hey guys,
Looking for a bit of advice. first off my spec for you:-
Asus R5E
5960X
16GB Gskill 3200 DDR4
Mayhems 480 Rad
Koolance 450PMPS D5 pump
Koolance tube res with block for PMPS pump

Just wondering how much difference air in the system can make to temps - reason I ask is when testing at 4.4Ghz my temps have risen by about 10-12 degrees
from where they were. I have recently changed to hard-line tubing, but everything else remains the same. Ambient temps about 20 deg.

Could my tim have gone off suddenly(4 months old, when I built the rig) or could my chip have degraded? I don't run 4.4 all the time - usually dial back to 4 for everyday.
I have noticed the flow seems a bit slow for a d5 especially seeing as this one runs at 5700-5800rpm. Could it be a simple airlock, or should I re do the tim? Any other ideas?

Maybe the mayhems rad is more restrictive? used to use an Alphacool ut60 480.

Any advice greatly appreciated.

Mark

Air bubbles would only decrease the thermal capacity of the loop, which decrease time it takes to reach equilibrium. It would not increase temps during prolonged load. What TIM specifically did you use? I doubt it's gone bad, but it's a possibility. More than likely there's probably and airlock somewhere, in the rad, in the waterblock, in the pump, who knows. Pull it, twist it, bop it.

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Air bubbles would only decrease the thermal capacity of the loop, which decrease time it takes to reach equilibrium. It would not increase temps during prolonged load. What TIM specifically did you use? I doubt it's gone bad, but it's a possibility. More than likely there's probably and airlock somewhere, in the rad, in the waterblock, in the pump, who knows. Pull it, twist it, bop it.

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Hi Zytheks,

Thanks for the reply - I use Gelid extreme tim. Could an airlock make the flow slower a than expected? The flow does seem slower to me than a
regular D5 - which is odd as it should be better!!!

Perhaps I should drain it again and re fill - being more careful in stop/starting the spare psu I use when filling. Perhaps I need to fill more slowly to expel air? My bet is that there is somehow air trapped in the pump or rad still, but if there is it is not showing or budging.Perhaps if I drain again I may as well replace the tim anyway.

Any other ideas etc

Mark
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Hi Zytheks,

Thanks for the reply - I use Gelid extreme tim. Could an airlock make the flow slower a than expected? The flow does seem slower to me than a
regular D5 - which is odd as it should be better!!!

Perhaps I should drain it again and re fill - being more careful in stop/starting the spare psu I use when filling. Perhaps I need to fill more slowly to expel air? My bet is that there is somehow air trapped in the pump or rad still, but if there is it is not showing or budging.Perhaps if I drain again I may as well replace the tim anyway.

Any other ideas etc

Mark

Gelid extreme is good stuff. It probably didn't go bad.

Air lock can kill your flow. I'd 'Pull it, twist it, bop it' as z said wink.gif. See if it clears it out before you drain
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Air bubbles would only decrease the thermal capacity of the loop, which decrease time it takes to reach equilibrium. It would not increase temps during prolonged load. What TIM specifically did you use? I doubt it's gone bad, but it's a possibility. More than likely there's probably and airlock somewhere, in the rad, in the waterblock, in the pump, who knows. Pull it, twist it, bop it.

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Hi Zytheks,

Thanks for the reply - I use Gelid extreme tim. Could an airlock make the flow slower a than expected? The flow does seem slower to me than a
regular D5 - which is odd as it should be better!!!

Perhaps I should drain it again and re fill - being more careful in stop/starting the spare psu I use when filling. Perhaps I need to fill more slowly to expel air? My bet is that there is somehow air trapped in the pump or rad still, but if there is it is not showing or budging.Perhaps if I drain again I may as well replace the tim anyway.

Any other ideas etc

Mark

Bubbles in the pump can create an airlock and mess up flow. I would only drain it and refill as a last resort. Usually playing bop it with your chassis is enough to dislodge bubbles. You can also hook your pump up to an external PSU and start/stop it to make it span faster/slower. The change in pressure usually dislodges bubbles. Or if you have a pump controller the same can be achieved without messing around with starting/stopping it.

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Hi. Can anyone think of a scenario that using Pastel would cause a significant drop on my flow meter reading from a Koolance flow meter? I was using XSPC EC6 Blood red and was getting jst over 1 GPM through 5 blocks and 2 rads with a single D5. I drained the system flushing everything thoroughly with distilled. The only change was then to use Pastel red and my flow rate has dropped to approx .6 GPM. I mixed the pastel just as directed and my temps seem fine. Could it be the viscosity is somehow causing the meter to read inaccurately? The meter is the INS-FM17N connected via a ADT-FM03 Frequency Adapter to a Lamptron CW611 controller. Thanks!
post #10410 of 14152
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Gelid extreme is good stuff. It probably didn't go bad.

Air lock can kill your flow. I'd 'Pull it, twist it, bop it' as z said wink.gif. See if it clears it out before you drain

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Bubbles in the pump can create an airlock and mess up flow. I would only drain it and refill as a last resort. Usually playing bop it with your chassis is enough to dislodge bubbles. You can also hook your pump up to an external PSU and start/stop it to make it span faster/slower. The change in pressure usually dislodges bubbles. Or if you have a pump controller the same can be achieved without messing around with starting/stopping it.

-Z

Thanks guys for your valuable input, think I will hook up the spare psu and go for a large bopping session Lol. I am fairly suspicious that there is an airlock in the pump. I really don't want to drain and re fill until last resort. Will report back later.

Mark
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