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I am new to watercooling and considering using Mayhems X1 UV Purple in a PETG loop. Is this a good idea, is it a good product? Does it make a difference whether going for a premix or adding dye to something clear? I see lots of advice saying to go for plain old distilled water and leave it alone. I am willing to do this if it REALLY is the sensible thing to do. Any advice?
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I am new to watercooling and considering using Mayhems X1 UV Purple in a PETG loop. Is this a good idea, is it a good product? Does it make a difference whether going for a premix or adding dye to something clear? I see lots of advice saying to go for plain old distilled water and leave it alone. I am willing to do this if it REALLY is the sensible thing to do. Any advice?

With plain water youll need anticorrosives and algecides. With stuff like mayhems products you just mix with water (or get a premix) and go. I use mayhems pastel, have used xt-1. Both really great and really easy products. Just make sure your loop is primarily nickel and/or copper and ur good to go. Also make sure you flush the parts well before adding the coolant.
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With plain water youll need anticorrosives and algecides. With stuff like mayhems products you just mix with water (or get a premix) and go. I use mayhems pastel, have used xt-1. Both really great and really easy products. Just make sure your loop is primarily nickel and/or copper and ur good to go. Also make sure you flush the parts well before adding the coolant.

Thanks, is there no issue with longevity of the loop though? I have read with some coloured coolants you need to drain and change far more frequently than using clear.

I plan on using an EK-Supremacy EVO Nickel Plexi block for CPU and Nickel+Plexi GPU Block, and Black Ice Nemesis 360 GTS rads.

I assume reservoir choice doesn't really factor in to coolant choice?

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Thanks, is there no issue with longevity of the loop though? I have read with some coloured coolants you need to drain and change far more frequently than using clear.

I plan on using an EK-Supremacy EVO Nickel Plexi block for CPU and Nickel+Plexi GPU Block, and Black Ice Nemesis 360 GTS rads.

I assume reservoir choice doesn't really factor in to coolant choice?

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Don't think the res will matter too much. I have an Acetal/Plexi one that works just fine. As for longevity I'm not sure how long you are hoping for. I used XT-1 with blue dye and needed to clean and change the coolant after about 8 months but that's because the dye gunked up the system. I switched to Pastel White and have never had an issue. I dont think its dyed white. Rather its the nano particles in it that give it the color. So there's nothing to stain. I can get a year or so out of it before a change. Could probably go longer but its what I just prefer to do. If you use plain water with UV reactive colored dye you may end up with the same gunking. You may not. I've never used any dyes other than that blue that time. Also with some dyes you may get discoloration of the tubing on some tubing. So really its not collant vs water you really need to worry about. At least not with the Mayhems products in my experience. Its the dyes you add to it. Using plain clear/white coolant is safe, in some cases could be better than plain water, and is just easier to use since you don't need to figure out how much anti-corrosive and algecide to add to the loop. The coolant mixes take care of that. That also means do NOT add any other additives or kill coils to coolant based loops unless you know for sure it already doesn't have something in it. You'll risk degradation and could actually cause growth and corrosion. The issue with longevity really comes down to the dye you use. I guess Mayhems has some non-staining dyes now. The other alternative is just to use a colored tubing.
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Don't think the res will matter too much. I have an Acetal/Plexi one that works just fine. As for longevity I'm not sure how long you are hoping for. I used XT-1 with blue dye and needed to clean and change the coolant after about 8 months but that's because the dye gunked up the system. I switched to Pastel White and have never had an issue. I dont think its dyed white. Rather its the nano particles in it that give it the color. So there's nothing to stain. I can get a year or so out of it before a change. Could probably go longer but its what I just prefer to do. If you use plain water with UV reactive colored dye you may end up with the same gunking. You may not. I've never used any dyes other than that blue that time. Also with some dyes you may get discoloration of the tubing on some tubing. So really its not collant vs water you really need to worry about. At least not with the Mayhems products in my experience. Its the dyes you add to it. Using plain clear/white coolant is safe, in some cases could be better than plain water, and is just easier to use since you don't need to figure out how much anti-corrosive and algecide to add to the loop. The coolant mixes take care of that. That also means do NOT add any other additives or kill coils to coolant based loops unless you know for sure it already doesn't have something in it. You'll risk degradation and could actually cause growth and corrosion. The issue with longevity really comes down to the dye you use. I guess Mayhems has some non-staining dyes now. The other alternative is just to use a colored tubing.

Great, thanks for that advice. So a premix may be the way to go then, just so you know you're getting something that's been done right? I have read quite a bit of advice saying don't use coolants and distilled with a kill coil is the only way to go or you're asking for trouble, but I see so many people doing otherwise, that advice doesn't really seem to make sense... otherwise no one would do it and all we'd see is plain clear custom loops all the time lol! I guess you just need to approach it with a bit of common sense and knowledge, which is what I'm trying to do. smile.gif
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Great, thanks for that advice. So a premix may be the way to go then, just so you know you're getting something that's been done right? I have read quite a bit of advice saying don't use coolants and distilled with a kill coil is the only way to go or you're asking for trouble, but I see so many people doing otherwise, that advice doesn't really seem to make sense... otherwise no one would do it and all we'd see is plain clear custom loops all the time lol! I guess you just need to approach it with a bit of common sense and knowledge, which is what I'm trying to do. smile.gif


I think there are people stuck in their ways and stick to water. That or they see coolant as an unnecessary waste of money because water is probably just as good. So its really cost vs hassle. There are probably some crap coolants out there too so just do your research and make a judgement call. Id say from personal experience, Mayhems is good stuff. Just use Mayhems tubing or Advanced LRT with it and you should be good to go. I used Tygon once and that stuff leeched plasticizer all over my loop. Come to think of it that's probably what caused my loop to gunk up the first time with some residual the second time. The dye still did sort of discolor my tubing and my acrylic res at the time.
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I think there are people stuck in their ways and stick to water. That or they see coolant as an unnecessary waste of money because water is probably just as good. So its really cost vs hassle. There are probably some crap coolants out there too so just do your research and make a judgement call. Id say from personal experience, Mayhems is good stuff. Just use Mayhems tubing or Advanced LRT with it and you should be good to go. I used Tygon once and that stuff leeched plasticizer all over my loop. Come to think of it that's probably what caused my loop to gunk up the first time with some residual the second time. The dye still did sort of discolor my tubing and my acrylic res at the time.

I am definitely going hard line and was going with PETG but Mayhems don't seem to do that... only the Borosilicate Glass tubing. Not that I'm against using that, but cutting it to length seems more challenging and risky than PETG.
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I am definitely going hard line and was going with PETG but Mayhems don't seem to do that... only the Borosilicate Glass tubing. Not that I'm against using that, but cutting it to length seems more challenging and risky than PETG.

Nice! Should be perfectly fine with acrylic hardline. You have more ambition than I do! Post a pic when its done!
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Nice! Should be perfectly fine with acrylic hardline. You have more ambition than I do! Post a pic when its done!

Haha, yeah I think maybe too much... my ambition is writing cheques my ability may not be able to cash lol! wink.gif
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Hey all,

I have a quick question concerning the bltiz kit...

I'm planning to put my build together this weekend but wanted to clean out the rads today or tomorrow to save some time. Any harm in running part 1 through the rads now then completing things with part 2 this weekend (say like 3-4 days)?

Thanks!
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