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this may sound totally stupid but

"This cleaning system is not safe to use around children and animals. Part 1 and Part 2 of the system uses highly effective cleaning acids down to PH 2 and you must take appropriate measures when using such products. You can dispose of the fluids down the drain once they have been diluted."


so how can this be PH neutral +/- 0.5

"· pH neutral (Ph7 -0.5 / +0.5)"

really you want to say the is PH2? right?

sorry im new to the products and from reading the first page it dont instil me with confidence, just a thought. for a start you clearly. sorry ill restart. your company dont know how to flush a rad properly and dont know what PH neutral is. i aint even continued reading the 1472 pages yet. like if it was PH neutral animals and kids would be fine as long as they didnt drink and so would copper and what ever else you suggested your products dont like
Edited by Mgrandy - 4/13/17 at 9:08am
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this may sound totally stupid but

"This cleaning system is not safe to use around children and animals. Part 1 and Part 2 of the system uses highly effective cleaning acids down to PH 2 and you must take appropriate measures when using such products. You can dispose of the fluids down the drain once they have been diluted."


so how can this be PH neutral +/- 0.5

"· pH neutral (Ph7 -0.5 / +0.5)"

really you want to say the is PH2? right?

sorry im new to the products and from reading the first page it dont instil me with confidence, just a thought. for a start you clearly. sorry ill restart. your company dont know how to flush a rad properly and dont know what PH neutral is. i aint even continued reading the 1472 pages yet. like if it was PH neutral animals and kids would be fine as long as they didnt drink and so would copper and what ever else you suggested your products dont like

Part 1 is the acid, part 2 the neutralizer. These are chemicals and like any other chemical in your house, keep it away from the kids/pets...
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Part 1 is the acid, part 2 the neutralizer. These are chemicals and like any other chemical in your house, keep it away from the kids/pets...

1= acid, 2= alkaline, if im readin this correct so still what part is PH neutral the water you use to flush after that hardly counts does it? and yes they are general household products just your company has perfected the solution amounts is this not better described. The colours look great i might add but im still bamboozled of how stupid this company thinks i am. nvm ill erm, look in to solutions more before i decide anything if this is whats to come and its clear from the charts this aint as easy as it seems i could possible get the same results from hmmm vinegar and baking soda not that i would mind u
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Part 1 is the acid, part 2 the neutralizer. These are chemicals and like any other chemical in your house, keep it away from the kids/pets...

1= acid, 2= alkaline, if im readin this correct so still what part is PH neutral the water you use to flush after that hardly counts does it? and yes they are general household products just your company has perfected the solution amounts is this not better described. The colours look great i might add but im still bamboozled of how stupid this company thinks i am. nvm ill erm, look in to solutions more before i decide anything if this is whats to come and its clear from the charts this aint as easy as it seems

I don't think you're understanding the instructions. Read them again. The blitz kit doesn't say its ph neutral, after properly using it, it will bring your system to ph neutral. There are ph strips included so you can verify this.
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so the 2nd solution is ph 7 then. nice free PH paper lol sorry i get it now like i said im new to coolants for Rads im a mechanic by trade thou so i have dealt with rads in the past just a few times. i just like to know what im buying and putting in my rad ive spent alot of cash etc and dont want to make a bo bo. what im chemically disposing of down the drain cough*

What can go down the drain
The only substances allowed down drains are those that meet all of the following criteria:

Nonhazardous -meh
No radioactive waste -meh
No hazardous chemical waste - who knows
No untreated biohazardous waste
Liquid - who knows
No solids, sludges, or viscous substances - meh
Will not interfere with sewage treatment operations - dont think so
No corrosive pH levels "Corrosive waste with a pH of 2.0 or lower or pH of 12.5 or higher" - yes
No grease or oil - meh
No hot (150°F or higher) temperatures in volumes of more than 10 gallons - meh

and its a wonder im stunned
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Thread Starter 
Blitz Part 1 Is an acid how ever we state PH 2 because this is the level before it is diluted at our end and goes to 3 to 4 PH in the bottle, PH levels are dependant on how it is stored at what temp it is stored and were it is stored (all factors out of our control once it leaves us). When watered down the PH levels change once again and once used in your rad as instructed the PH change once again.

The guide is written in a way, anyone can under stand it. If we wrote it to complex people would complain. There is one thing i have thought about though we need to do the instructions in diffrent languages to cover all bases.
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yea thanks for clearing that up i should be good to go in-that case ive been looking at the tubing types also as per the graphs. probs consider the hard tubing unless there are any other benefits and drawbacks, obs the acrylic but going to be a nightmare to get right but if its worth doing etc may as well get it right. flex tube wouldnt look right imo. think im going to keep pump and res separate encase one or other fails and not both see how much space i got left
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Mayhems Coolants Tubing Compatibility Chart. This Chart is for users to use the correct fluids with the correct tubing.

Ops .. re uploaded

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*** Updated due to spelling mistake

Is this for all PETG tubing as I have Primochill tubing? As that's all I could find where I am at the time.
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No you cannot mix them both (Pastel extreme and X1) you can mix pastel extreme with XT-1 how ever it will fall out much faster.
can regular pastel be mixed with x1? and when you say the particles will fall out faster, do you mean when the system is off and not flowing? or that the appearance will fade completely faster
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is it any difference when i use Deep Red or Non stain Dye Red with X1 ? or any reason to use other more than other?
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