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I have about 1.5 liters of water in my loop and just used 1 drop of Biocide Extreme. I think it was better off before added the drop. Here is a picture of the PH strip from the test. Can you guys tell me if this is okay?

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I have about 1.5 liters of water in my loop and just used 1 drop of Biocide Extreme. I think it was better off before added the drop. Here is a picture of the PH strip from the test. Can you guys tell me if this is okay?


From everything I remember you want your PH around 6.5. You are going to have to match that color to the guide on the package the strip came out of. We cannot tell you as different brands of test strips vary a little in the color range they use.
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I have about 1.5 liters of water in my loop and just used 1 drop of Biocide Extreme. I think it was better off before added the drop. Here is a picture of the PH strip from the test. Can you guys tell me if this is okay?



You want PH 6-8.

If you are using the Mayhems PH test kit, and it has not changed at all, that looks like 6-7(to me).
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You want PH 6-8.

If you are using the Mayhems PH test kit, and it has not changed at all, that looks like 6-7(to me).

I am using the Mayhems PH test kit. Its just not clear what color it is to me. I mean I see the green but its also yellow below it.
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so PTnuke is better the silver kill coil or not?

Not sure if one is better than the other. I haven't use either yet, but plan to in my first water cooled venture in the next couple of weeks. I like the idea of the silver kill coil being non-chemical as I plan on using plain ol' distilled water. Experienced users would be able to answer this better than I though.

You may not want a kill coil if like your reservoir is a clear reservoir that's 100% in open view, seeing a kill coil in there would just be ugly (though maybe if you use mayhem's pastel, you wouldn't see it, but then you wouldn't need one if you used pastel).

You also don't want to mix nickel and silver, so if you have nickel plated parts, you may not want it either. Or, if you have a ton of different metals in your loop, ie 3+, you don't want to add silver. Silver on it's own isn't very corrosive, but you will always have corrosion with mixed metals, it's just a question of 'when'. By adding more metals, you increase the rate of corrosion, and people have had kill coils cause corrosion.

It all depends on what you do, both are great products but depending on how your loop is set up, one will be a better choice than the other. You will not need one if you use mayhems though. There are highly professional and reputable members that swear by either, ie Martin's hates silver koil and swears by Nuke, Murlocke prefers Koil
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I'm about to make my big purchase but I need help with one thing:

It says don't use Tygon in the OP, and I can only find 1/4x3/8 tubing in Tygon. I need to use that size of tubing, but it's hard to find in anything. If someone could help me with a 1/4 tubing or if maybe if one of the tygons are okay, that'd be helpful. Just the last thing I need to know before pulling the trigger
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I'm about to make my big purchase but I need help with one thing:

It says don't use Tygon in the OP, and I can only find 1/4x3/8 tubing in Tygon. I need to use that size of tubing, but it's hard to find in anything. If someone could help me with a 1/4 tubing or if maybe if one of the tygons are okay, that'd be helpful. Just the last thing I need to know before pulling the trigger

Use 1/4 to 3/8" adapters if you can. Your tiny pumps in the corsair units will have more than enough trouble keeping flowrates to an acceptable level, and the bends in 1/4" tubing adds a LOT of restriction when compared to wider tubing.

If you absolutely can't manage to fit the adapters in, then Tygon Plasticizers free tubing works. The warnings against plasticizers on mayhems website is old, but still stands for all their tubing except the plasticizers free tubing.
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I'm not using adaptors, they look ugly and ridiculous. i'd rather have clouding.
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Your tiny pumps in the corsair units will have more than enough trouble keeping flowrates to an acceptable level, and the bends in 1/4" tubing adds a LOT of restriction when compared to wider tubing.

I won't be using lots of bends, and from what I've read there's way more 90* tight turns and such in the rad then to be worried about a couple in the tubing. It uses 1/4ID tubing stock, so there will not be any trouble with it.
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If you absolutely can't manage to fit the adapters in, then Tygon Plasticizers free tubing works. The warnings against plasticizers on mayhems website is old, but still stands for all their tubing except the plasticizers free tubing.

Interesting, thanks. I think the plasticizer tubing of tygon is cloudy, but I'm sure I can manage something.

edit: the E1000 isn't super clear, but there's 2475 clear tubing that's plasticiser free... but that's supposed to be even worse to work with ;/ i dont know what to use!

edit2: screw it, I'm just going to get 44-4x. worst case scenario of plasticiser shouldnt even matter with solid pastel fluid anyways
Edited by Belial - 12/18/13 at 5:52pm
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I'm not using adaptors, they look ugly and ridiculous. i'd rather have clouding.
I won't be using lots of bends, and from what I've read there's way more 90* tight turns and such in the rad then to be worried about a couple in the tubing. It uses 1/4ID tubing stock, so there will not be any trouble with it.
Interesting, thanks. I think the plasticizer tubing of tygon is cloudy, but I'm sure I can manage something.

edit: the E1000 isn't super clear, but there's 2475 clear tubing that's plasticiser free and supposed to be 'very clear' so i think I'll make mu purhcases now.

Not really, a run of the mill single width computer cooling radiator doesn't really have any 90 bends, the key word there is bends. Water intakes into the first chamber where it is pushed through 6-28 chambers (depending on how many rows your radiator has), it then flows into another chamber which it turns 90degrees then back through the other set of chambers, then out.

There is no tight turns or bends in a standard PC watercooling radiator. If, however, you're cannibalizing a car radiator or using a MoRa then yes, it has a ton of 90 degree bends.
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I'm about to make my big purchase but I need help with one thing:

It says don't use Tygon in the OP, and I can only find 1/4x3/8 tubing in Tygon. I need to use that size of tubing, but it's hard to find in anything. If someone could help me with a 1/4 tubing or if maybe if one of the tygons are okay, that'd be helpful. Just the last thing I need to know before pulling the trigger

Tygon is a brand name and they make many different types of tubing ..... go into a water testing laboratory where they utmost in quality is required and that is all ya see.

But, just as people say Corsair makes great PSU's, .... and they certainly so..... but Corsair also makes some pretty crappy PSUs.....in short, brand name can not be depended upon as an absolute indicator of quality.

So if you buy Tygon, just make sure it's the laboratory grade, plasticizer free variety.

And I'm gonna agree with Z on the tubing size.... 1/4 is a bad idea

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/hazen-williams-water-d_797.html

1/4" Tubing at 1.25 gpm
Actual Head Loss thru typical Loop (psi): 2.5 (tubing only)
Velocity (ft/s): 8.17
Each fitting adds: 0.67 psi .... 10 fittings = 6.7 psi
Total w/o blocks = 9.2 psi

3/8" Tubing at 1.25 gpm
Actual Head Loss thru typical Loop (psi): 0.3 (tubing only)
Velocity (ft/s): 3.63 fps
Each fitting adds: 0.13 psi .... 10 fittings = 1.3 psi
Total w/o blocks = 1.6 psi
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/18/13 at 6:11pm
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