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I want to grab some Aurora from PPC or FrozenPC as part of a larger order but the news of a new and improved version has got me waiting. I wouldn't mind the wait except that as per Mayhem's last communication, the newer version will not be sold as such but instead just replace the older version of Aurora correct? That would leave me with no clear way of knowing exactly what I will be getting even if I wait.mad.gif

Email PPCs or FCPU. I have a feeling once they get them in stock they will likely re-purpose the rest of the older stuff, and strictly sell Aurora+, as it would boost sales. If nothing else I'm sure once they have it in stock they will take special requests to ship out the newer stuff instead.

E-mail them asking when it will be in. wink.gif
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Email PPCs or FCPU. I have a feeling once they get them in stock they will likely re-purpose the rest of the older stuff, and strictly sell Aurora+, as it would boost sales. If nothing else I'm sure once they have it in stock they will take special requests to ship out the newer stuff instead.

E-mail them asking when it will be in. wink.gif

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I've done just that and haven't received a reply yet but wanted to ask here in case there was other news I was unaware of.

Well I'm sure you know the feeling of impatience when you have close to a thousand in watercooling parts just waiting to be shipped to you haha.
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Email PPCs or FCPU. I have a feeling once they get them in stock they will likely re-purpose the rest of the older stuff, and strictly sell Aurora+, as it would boost sales. If nothing else I'm sure once they have it in stock they will take special requests to ship out the newer stuff instead.

E-mail them asking when it will be in. wink.gif

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Thanks for the reply. Yeah I've done just that and haven't received a reply yet but wanted to ask here in case there was other news I was unaware of.

Well I'm sure you know the feeling of impatience when you have close to a thousand in watercooling parts just waiting to be shipped to you haha.

I spoke with Duke at PPC and he spoke with Mayhem.

It looks like they are not sending the new stuff until the old stock is out. They are not shipping it out on request it does not look like.

From messing around with PPCs site to see when the backorder thing came up, it looks like they have 20-30 stocked for most Aurora's. FCPU if I remember right had around 50 stocked for them. I doubt either company would eat the cost of that much inventory, so I am not sure how long it will take for them to get a new order in for the new stuff. Especially since the new stuff has been announced and fewer people are willing to order the old, lol

I just ordered some of the old for my WIP. I feel pretty confident in the 6mo or so when I need to swap it out, the new stuff will be readily available and I will just grab that. The loop I am planning is simple enough that there shouldn't be any issues with the old.
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I spoke with Duke at PPC and he spoke with Mayhem.

It looks like they are not sending the new stuff until the old stock is out. They are not shipping it out on request it does not look like.

From messing around with PPCs site to see when the backorder thing came up, it looks like they have 20-30 stocked for most Aurora's. FCPU if I remember right had around 50 stocked for them. I doubt either company would eat the cost of that much inventory, so I am not sure how long it will take for them to get a new order in for the new stuff. Especially since the new stuff has been announced and fewer people are willing to order the old, lol

I just ordered some of the old for my WIP. I feel pretty confident in the 6mo or so when I need to swap it out, the new stuff will be readily available and I will just grab that. The loop I am planning is simple enough that there shouldn't be any issues with the old.

Hmm this information makes me reconsider waiting. Could I pick your brain on whether the Aurora effect will last for ~ 6 months on this setup:

- EK Supremacy CPU block
- 1x 240mm Alphacool ST30 rad
- 1x 360mm Alphacool UT60 rad
- 1x Aquacomputer 780Ti waterblock
- 1x XSPC Photon Res
- 1x Aquacomputer D5 pump

In the worst case scenario I might still go ahead because I believe the coolant will function fine even after the effect drops out correct?
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post #4605 of 15457
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Hmm this information makes me reconsider waiting. Could I pick your brain on whether the Aurora effect will last for ~ 6 months on this setup:

- EK Supremacy CPU block
- 1x 240mm Alphacool ST30 rad
- 1x 360mm Alphacool UT60 rad
- 1x Aquacomputer 780Ti waterblock
- 1x XSPC Photon Res
- 1x Aquacomputer D5 pump

In the worst case scenario I might still go ahead because I believe the coolant will function fine even after the effect drops out correct?


You should be ok as long as you do not use a bunch of 90 degrees and tight bends. I recommend giving the Aurora wiki a good read http://www.mayhems.co.uk/front/aurora-guide.html
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Hi Mayhems thread:

I use a ethylene-glycol based coolant. It works well, but it's sort of messy when filling (leaves white marks everywhere when it dries), smells sort of like fish and maple syrup (?????) and it's toxic. What does Mayhems have for someone who wants a no-dye, clear concentrate to add to distilled water to make coolant? Does it have anti-corrosive properties like ethylene glycol as well?
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post #4607 of 15457
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Hi Mayhems thread:

I use a ethylene-glycol based coolant. It works well, but it's sort of messy when filling (leaves white marks everywhere when it dries), smells sort of like fish and maple syrup (?????) and it's toxic. What does Mayhems have for someone who wants a no-dye, clear concentrate to add to distilled water to make coolant? Does it have anti-corrosive properties like ethylene glycol as well?

There is the X1 clear that is no-dye and is glycol free. It has all biocides and anti-corrosives in it.. Just add the concentrate to some pure water and fill your loop thumb.gif
Here is the X1: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_381_1071_915&products_id=34058
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I'd suggest running w/ pure DW for a cupla days ..... then when ya ready to add the X1, drain and measure the amount that comes out and plan your mix accordingly.

I'd recommend against reusing the fluid..... I ran 5 gpm thru my rads for an hour each....what I didn't think of was screwing in ya fittings into your painted components results in both ya fittings and rads, shedding some pain flakes. If ya gonna put back, I'd filter it first..... but i don't see the point in trying to save 19 cents worth of distilled water.

I am going to do that this way. I would rather not reuse fluid and it's a good idea to test it all with DW first (just in case). This will also give me an answer of much fluid I do actually need. I will gladly shelf out for another liter of premixed X1, thing is I usually get 2-3 weeks of delivery time and that puts me a bit off. Just can't wait to "launch this ship" although better be patient and make it right.

Ps. when running on DW for 2-3 days is it necessary to add kill coil or anything?

@JackNaylorPE @cyphon thank you!
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I am going to do that this way. I would rather not reuse fluid and it's a good idea to test it all with DW first (just in case). This will also give me an answer of much fluid I do actually need. I will gladly shelf out for another liter of premixed X1, thing is I usually get 2-3 weeks of delivery time and that puts me a bit off. Just can't wait to "launch this ship" although better be patient and make it right.

Ps. when running on DW for 2-3 days is it necessary to add kill coil or anything?

@JackNaylorPE @cyphon thank you!

You will probably be ok for a short period like that. Also, if you added anything (coil, biocides, etc), you'd have to completely flush everything again before using pastel/x1/aurora/xt1
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Originally Posted by Balanar View Post

Hmm this information makes me reconsider waiting. Could I pick your brain on whether the Aurora effect will last for ~ 6 months on this setup:

- EK Supremacy CPU block
- 1x 240mm Alphacool ST30 rad
- 1x 360mm Alphacool UT60 rad
- 1x Aquacomputer 780Ti waterblock
- 1x XSPC Photon Res
- 1x Aquacomputer D5 pump

In the worst case scenario I might still go ahead because I believe the coolant will function fine even after the effect drops out correct?

1. Have you read the wiki ?

http://www.mayhems.co.uk/front/aurora-guide.html#.UsxPHLT9zuE

2. The "dropping out" effect appears to be greatly exaggerated. For example....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7eboct_ckQ


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Originally Posted by Eco28 View Post

I am going to do that this way. I would rather not reuse fluid and it's a good idea to test it all with DW first (just in case). This will also give me an answer of much fluid I do actually need. I will gladly shelf out for another liter of premixed X1, thing is I usually get 2-3 weeks of delivery time and that puts me a bit off. Just can't wait to "launch this ship" although better be patient and make it right.

Ps. when running on DW for 2-3 days is it necessary to add kill coil or anything?

One thing that I was disappointed in ....with the DW and single port top I had water coming in the top of the res and a 1" air gab which created some movement and bubbles in the res....which was actually visually pleasing .... switching to the multi-port w/ fill tube, eliminated the bubbles and the surfactant in the Mayhems kills all remaining turbulence
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 1/7/14 at 11:59am
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