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Distilled water should be 7 if it isn't find a brand that has it. Also usually the issue that creates problems are new or improperly flushed radiators. So check that first.
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I ran primo sysprep in distilled through a water filter when I was flushing on my current setup, but as seeing I'll have to do a multiple step I'll test the ph prior to using my home made flush setup. The filter caught a lot of crap from the rads while it was running (ran the flusher for 8 hours while I was at the shop/work).
 
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post #5703 of 15453
Thank you for the info. +rep

I'm planning on making my first water loop in one or two month. Made my first build this month so water cooling is the next logical step.
I'm a big fan of white pastel coolants and I want to make sure I get no color degradation as it would completely destroy the aesthetics I'm going for.

By the way is there some safe lists of brands/models to choose from in terms of water cooling components (rads, fittings, tubing, res, blocks) to avoid this type of situation with inadequate ph? What about the materials (copper, nickel, ... )?
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On Mayhems website they list components that have shown no issues when using along with their fluids & dyes.
 
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Even if you have something approved youShould still flush it anyways
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On Mayhems website they list components that have shown no issues when using along with their fluids & dyes.
Nice.

Thanks I'll be sure to check it.
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Thank you.

Another question then:

And if it is not around 7, that means that at least one of the component in the loop is changing the ph? And you then test each component to find out which are "faulty"?
Also what if the distilled water prior to running in the loop is not around 7?

Ya you could fill individual components and shake it real good for a while and test the ph to identify where the problem may lie. If the ph of the distilled water isn't 7 I would find a new source of distilled water but ph can be made more acidic by introducing lemon juice and more basic by adding baking soda. Also you can get a liter of "ph up" and "ph down" at your local hydroponics store for $11 a piece if you don't want to mess with things like lemon and baking soda. Sometimes they have 8oz bottles which is probably a better size for our application.

Also another FYI. If you get a digital ph meter it will not be able to accurately read the ph of pure distilled water.
Edited by d00bzilla - 3/24/14 at 3:14pm
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FYI if you want a more advanced way to measure ph you can drop by your local hydroponics store and pick up a digital meter.

Don't use deionized water if you use a digital meter, it will give you absurd readings like 2.1 when in reality it's very near neutral. Since deionized water is indeed deionized and pH tests hydrogen ions you'll end up with wacked out readings when in reality it's very near neutral.

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Hello sorry if I'm dense what do you actually test with the ph meter? The distilled water that you're gonna use to flush? Or is it only for people who buy coolant concentrates and mix them themselves?

A pH meter tests the concentration of hydrogen ions. Low concentrations are acidic, high concentrations are basic or alkaline.
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Thank you.

Another question then:

And if it is not around 7, that means that at least one of the component in the loop is changing the ph? And you then test each component to find out which are "faulty"?
Also what if the distilled water prior to running in the loop is not around 7?

Components usually won't effect pH, leftover crap in them and additives will. Some people use CuSo4 (Copper II Sulphate) in their loop which will drastically lower the pH, then switch to a concentrate and it gives them low pH levels which can mess with their coolant. Then all the sudden their red/pink coolant is crap brown and they get angry at the manu when it was the fault of the pH of their loop.
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Distilled water should be 7 if it isn't find a brand that has it. Also usually the issue that creates problems are new or improperly flushed radiators. So check that first.

Actually plain water has a ph of 6.3, but close enough. wink.gif
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Don't use deionized water if you use a digital meter, it will give you absurd readings like 2.1 when in reality it's very near neutral. Since deionized water is indeed deionized and pH tests hydrogen ions you'll end up with wacked out readings when in reality it's very near neutral.

A pH meter tests the concentration of hydrogen ions. Low concentrations are acidic, high concentrations are basic or alkaline.
Components usually won't effect pH, leftover crap in them and additives will. Some people use CuSo4 (Copper II Sulphate) in their loop which will drastically lower the pH, then switch to a concentrate and it gives them low pH levels which can mess with their coolant. Then all the sudden their red/pink coolant is crap brown and they get angry at the manu when it was the fault of the pH of their loop.
Actually plain water has a ph of 6.3, but close enough. wink.gif

Somebody payed attention in chemistry class smile.gif Spot on, very good info. I'm at work and didn't have time to fully explain why the ph meter wouldn't work in distilled water.
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