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I got a question about the Mayhems Blitz Pro Cleaning Kit. I know that it comes in two parts, 1) For cleaning radiators and 2) for cleaning a whole loop. What I want to know is can we just use the part 1 to clean the radiators and all that and skip part 2 afterwards as I don't have an existing loop and all the waterblocks are new and haven't been used.

That's not exactly how the two parts work. Part one is a potent solvent with a very low pH meaning it's an acid. There's this stuff called flux in the solder they use to make radiators. Flux gets mixed in with your coolant and messes it up. So part one eats away the flux, cleans out the inner rad leaving nothing but copper and bare solder, any flux or grime will be removed. Part two is a powerful surfactant and a pH neutralizer. It takes any particles and suspends them in the coolant, so they don't get stuck anywhere. Think of it like a super slippery non viscous dish soap. It also neutralizes the pH, this is the important part concerning the relation between part one and two. Part two neutralizes the pH of the loop before filling. If you just flushed with distilled water after part one there might be traces of acid left in the droplets before filling, and it may react and mess up coolant after flushing. Part two, on the other hand, won't react with coolant and will bring pH back to true neutral. So you don't NEED to use part two on the whole loop, but if you use part one on the rads, you need to use part two on the rads lest you render the entire point of part 1 void. So to digress, it's not as simple as "Part one cleans the rads, part two cleans the rest". Hope that helps clear things up.

-Z
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Blitz cleaning mini update (more details coming soon in the quad rad comparison):



Only thing that kinda surprised me was the EX560 given the other XSPC rads, I had 2 samples of the AX480 as well to play with.
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That's not exactly how the two parts work. Part one is a potent solvent with a very low pH meaning it's an acid. There's this stuff called flux in the solder they use to make radiators. Flux gets mixed in with your coolant and messes it up. So part one eats away the flux, cleans out the inner rad leaving nothing but copper and bare solder, any flux or grime will be removed. Part two is a powerful surfactant and a pH neutralizer. It takes any particles and suspends them in the coolant, so they don't get stuck anywhere. Think of it like a super slippery non viscous dish soap. It also neutralizes the pH, this is the important part concerning the relation between part one and two. Part two neutralizes the pH of the loop before filling. If you just flushed with distilled water after part one there might be traces of acid left in the droplets before filling, and it may react and mess up coolant after flushing. Part two, on the other hand, won't react with coolant and will bring pH back to true neutral. So you don't NEED to use part two on the whole loop, but if you use part one on the rads, you need to use part two on the rads lest you render the entire point of part 1 void. So to digress, it's not as simple as "Part one cleans the rads, part two cleans the rest". Hope that helps clear things up.

-Z

Thanks a lot. That makes everything more clear now.
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That's not exactly how the two parts work. Part one is a potent solvent with a very low pH meaning it's an acid. There's this stuff called flux in the solder they use to make radiators. Flux gets mixed in with your coolant and messes it up. So part one eats away the flux, cleans out the inner rad leaving nothing but copper and bare solder, any flux or grime will be removed. Part two is a powerful surfactant and a pH neutralizer. It takes any particles and suspends them in the coolant, so they don't get stuck anywhere. Think of it like a super slippery non viscous dish soap. It also neutralizes the pH, this is the important part concerning the relation between part one and two. Part two neutralizes the pH of the loop before filling. If you just flushed with distilled water after part one there might be traces of acid left in the droplets before filling, and it may react and mess up coolant after flushing. Part two, on the other hand, won't react with coolant and will bring pH back to true neutral. So you don't NEED to use part two on the whole loop, but if you use part one on the rads, you need to use part two on the rads lest you render the entire point of part 1 void. So to digress, it's not as simple as "Part one cleans the rads, part two cleans the rest". Hope that helps clear things up.

-Z
thanks for the explanation also i have some questions i have 3 x brand new alphacool and brand new blocks.As i read i dont need to use part2 on the new blocks only we need to use part1 and part2 on rads.Whats the use of ph meter?I mean lets say we done with using part 1 and part 2 and the ph reading must be 7 but the meter shows ph 9 now what?
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Over the long term the PH meter can aid in looking after your system and tell you when you need to clean your system or if you have to much acid in your system very much like looking after a fish tank .....
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Over the long term the PH meter can aid in looking after your system and tell you when you need to clean your system or if you have to much acid in your system very much like looking after a fish tank .....
ok thanks ,so the safe value must be 6.86?
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7.4 is the best for a liquid cooled pc.
post #8088 of 15457
I have an old H60 i was about the throw in the bin. Instead ive replaced the tubing with clear and about to fill it with Aurora Tharsis Red. Whats the expected outcome ? ^_^
post #8089 of 15457
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For record. I'm using an alphacool read, ut60 240, and rx360. Been about a month now. Cleaned out both radiators distilled and vinegar. I haven't had coloring issues with the die.

I went from November to March w/o a color change .... then went to brownish red and now its black. Gonna Blitz it and try again over the holidays.
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What is the best clear tube for Mayhems Aurora 2?

The Primochill is DEHP free and very good but if looking for alternatives, Tygon 2475 not only has no DEHP plasticizers but no plasticizers of any kind which makes it a bit stiffer. It's water resistance is also higher than any other clear tubing that I have seen so it is very resistant to staining so attractive to those using dye colors known to be stain prone. I use short lengths on acrylic builds to isolate the pump from the rest of the system.
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