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This level of backlight bleeding, is it normal or not?

post #1 of 13
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Just got my Crossover. No dead pixels, amazing color display, and calibrated perfectly, looks almost at CRT level.

But it has...the backlight bleed so many talk of.

At first I thought I wouldn't notice it.

But you know, I play alot of horror games...and it suddenly becomes incredibly noticable, especially in movies.




http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5746/p1000082pv.jpg (Original, incase to small, OCN limits the size so much)


I've contacted the seller, Accessorieswhole on Ebay and they've asked me to provide a screenshot showing it, and tells me that backlight bleed is normal with all LED / IPS panels.
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Wow that is really bad. Personally I wouldn't put up with that.
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Originally Posted by Cyph3r View Post

Wow that is really bad. Personally I wouldn't put up with that.

It's hard to notice the lower left and right sides during gaming,

But the top left and top right are very noitcable.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mkilbride View Post

It's hard to notice the lower left and right sides during gaming,
But the top left and top right are very noitcable.

Do you run with the brightness all the way up? Mine didn't have a lot of bleed to begin with, but since I set it to my normal viewing levels I can't see it at all. I have it turned down to somewhere around 40% to 50% brightness.
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Most of that is IPS glow, and you can know that yourself if you look at it from different angles. Anything that changes intensity and is more noticeable on indirect angles is IPS glow. It's one reason for why IPS generally isn't recommended for dark content. Anything that is static and doesn't change intensity is probably backlight bleed. If you want to take pictures of blacklight bleed, do so from a longer distance, which will eliminate a lot of the IPS glow.
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It is very noticable, at all intensities. If I take a picture, say and move it to just that corner, it appears brighter / washed out. Same with all 4 corners. This happened on my old LCD, but that was TN and not an LED. Except I didn't notice any bleeding.

But it's just so distracting - ANY GAME with dark content is unplayable, which is oh, I don't know, 98% of games have some night level, or a building I walk into, and suddenly these 4 big tan spots appear my edges? Distracting as all heck.

I'm sorry, but if this is how all IPS monitors look - than despite the awesome color accuracy...I simply must stick to TN.
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Man, that would be too much for me.

I remember when my 55" Sony TV came in a year ago and it had a couple bends at the corners, plus one in the middle. The actually bends them selves were not really noticeable in the frame, but very noticeable on the screen. The pressure points caused a ton of backlight bleed. Reducing the pressure helped quite a bit. We sent the TV back anyways since it was brand new, no reason to accept faulty gear.
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post #8 of 13
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Here is another one from 10 feet back and zoomed in - as another user alerted to me is the proper method to identify true backlight bleeding.

Here you go.



Some other shots:

Hello me

p1000095v2.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-27

Gaming:

p1000091x.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-27



p1000089o.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-27

p1000088ks.jpg
Shot at 2012-07-27
Really blurry and I'm sorry for that, but while the image itself is fine, as you can see on all the pictures, that is how it actually looks in the 4 corners. =If this is IPS glow, I am done with IPS.
Edited by Mkilbride - 7/27/12 at 8:15am
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I wouldn't consider that amount of bleeding to be normal. Some bleeding is going to be normal with an IPS, and any display in general, but what you are seeing is just insane. I would take great issue and start the process with the seller to get the display changed out, or sent back for a refund.
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post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

I wouldn't consider that amount of bleeding to be normal. Some bleeding is going to be normal with an IPS, and any display in general, but what you are seeing is just insane.
Thank you!

I am surprised to see all these other people defending this and calling it normal, as have other threads and on other forums, and people telling me "it's one small flaw"!

One small flaw is not, not being able to play movies or play games without completely breaking immersion.
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