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As long as the average gamer only supports DX9 and DX10, games will be made DX9 and DX10.
This is of course AMD's fault.


I'm not sure its entirely accurate to say that the gap doesn't exist in DX11 games. It seems the gap is less likely to exist in first person shooters, which many dx11 games are.


But Civ V and world of warcraft are also DX11.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_gameplay_performance_review/4

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-22.html
Edited by erunion - 8/1/12 at 1:57am
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post #102 of 141
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This.
I'm not completely sure about who made it, but I think it was Tom's who tested a plethora of processors at different resolutions, and once the step to 1440p was made, Phenom IIs and i7s were separated mere 5% at most, on graphically intensive games. Once in 3x 1080p and up setups, there was no difference. Even more, FX was performing better than the i7s.
So the problem it's not that the processor isn't powerful (we would say that if the Intel was shooting 60 FPS while AMD ran at 30), the problem here is that the GPUs are on vacation since new games don't push the hardware anymore.

Maybe when one GPU is involved, this is the case. But the real point here is that yes Bulldozer is fine for one GPU yet exceptionally weak when using more than one GPU. If you added a second 7970 to the results there, you would see the same framerates with the Bulldozer chips. The lack of increase is because the AMD chips are just not strong enough to manage that kind of GPU power. Even at super high resolutions, you need a powerful CPU to keep up. That excuse only gets you so far.

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To further my point, when was the last time you saw AMD as the primary CPU choice in Gaming Laptops hmm? The proof is in the pudding... rolleyes.gif
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I'm not sure its entirely accurate to say that the gap doesn't exist in DX11 games. It seems the gap is less likely to exist in first person shooters, which many dx11 games are.
But Civ V and world of warcraft are also DX11.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/11/amd_bulldozer_fx8150_gameplay_performance_review/4
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-benchmark-core-i7-3770k,3181-22.html

This is a joke right?
Edited by Imglidinhere - 8/1/12 at 2:00am
     
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post #103 of 141
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This is a joke right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support
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post #104 of 141
The problem is there really are barely any games that support DX11, hopefully that will change to all games using DX11 and newer technology soon.

But as of now, I Personally play mostly DX9 and 10, with the only DX11 being Metro 2033, and Dues EX HR (i Don't actually know if that's DX11 lol)
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post #105 of 141
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I'm not completely sure about who made it, but I think it was Tom's who tested a plethora of processors at different resolutions, and once the step to 1440p was made, Phenom IIs and i7s were separated mere 5% at most, on graphically intensive games. Once in 3x 1080p and up setups, there was no difference. Even more, FX was performing better than the i7s.

And then when the GPU power is cranked up to the level that's actually useful for triple screen setups this happens:
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post #106 of 141
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And then when the GPU power is cranked up to the level that's actually useful for triple screen setups this happens:

How funny. I was just reading that same review independently. My heart just about stopped when I got to this.

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post #107 of 141
Holy Scheiße!

Not to crap on Bulldozer, but that difference is simply insane. With Tri-Sli it is just under FOUR TIMES faster :O

Seems if you're going to use tripple screens with SLI, go for the Intel Processor. If you are using a single Monitor and GPU go for whatever you want.
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post #108 of 141
Yeah, AMD and AMD chipsets are pretty garbage at multi-GPU.

Luckily multi-gpu is pretty irrelevant and not catered to AMD's target audience.
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post #109 of 141
He sholud OC FX and retest te games so we can see what happens. FX isnt weak, its about software support. Games does not utilise all FX cpu power. Software is important as hardware it self for performance and comapartion between two CPU-s.
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I will, but i'm still having trouble pushing pas 4.4GHz, and that is only stable for 5 hours in prime 95 OR just the dekstop. It doesn't matter my usage, after around 3-5 hours the whole computer freezes. I have all 4 RAM slots filled, could that be the problem?
   
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