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Poll Results: Which block will win?

Poll expired: Sep 16, 2012  
  • 1% (3)
    Alphacool NexXxos XP3
  • 0% (2)
    Bitspower Summit HF
  • 1% (5)
    Danger Den M6
  • 2% (6)
    DT 5Noz
  • 7% (20)
    DT Sniper
  • 10% (26)
    EK Supreme HF Rev 4 (Full Nickel)
  • 17% (46)
    EK Supremacy (Nicekl/Plexi)
  • 8% (22)
    Koolance CPU-370 Rev 1.1
  • 1% (5)
    MIPS IceForce HF
  • 11% (29)
    Swiftech Apogee HD
  • 0% (1)
    Phobya UC1-LT
  • 6% (16)
    Watercool Heatkiller 3.0
  • 1% (3)
    XSPC Rasa
  • 13% (35)
    XSPC Raystorm
  • 14% (37)
    XSPC Raystorm Full Copper
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post #461 of 603
Any guesses on when we might be getting graced with DT Direct results? Think I may be getting ballsy enough to give one a try. Well maybe, might need a shot or two before firing it up.
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post #462 of 603
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Any guesses on when we might be getting graced with DT Direct results? Think I may be getting ballsy enough to give one a try. Well maybe, might need a shot or two before firing it up.

I'm hoping to be done with the retesting this week.
     
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So correct me if I'm wrong but Supreme HF is within 1 degree of Supremacy? blinksmiley.gif

If this is the case then I would have to surmise that the new Supremacy was launched to get at the money in the wallets of sheeple rather than improvement. in cooling. For ~1c difference in temp, it's not worth the $90(probably more if you include the shipping from the vendor) if you already own an EK HF block. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

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post #464 of 603
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So correct me if I'm wrong but Supreme HF is within 1 degree of Supremacy? blinksmiley.gif
If this is the case then I would have to surmise that the new Supremacy was launched to get at the money in the wallets of sheeple rather than improvement. in cooling. For ~1c difference in temp, it's not worth the $90(probably more if you include the shipping from the vendor) if you already own an EK HF block. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

According to my data yes, however it does appear to do better on Ivy Bridge according to St0ned. Pretty much if you have any of the recent blocks there is little cost benefit in buying a new block because any performance difference will be small. I would still rather have them make a small performance increase than none redface.gif However that doesn't mean that you have to buy it. You might be better off spending that money on another pump or better TIM or extra fans etc. However if you're buying a new block then hopefully this helps you decide thumb.gif I was hoping one of these blocks would really shake things up, but this test has really shown how consolidated everything has become.

Bear in mind that EK have requested a retest for the Supremacy and I will be doing that next thumb.gif
     
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So correct me if I'm wrong but Supreme HF is within 1 degree of Supremacy? blinksmiley.gif
If this is the case then I would have to surmise that the new Supremacy was launched to get at the money in the wallets of sheeple rather than improvement. in cooling. For ~1c difference in temp, it's not worth the $90(probably more if you include the shipping from the vendor) if you already own an EK HF block. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

You might be better off spending that money on another pump or better TIM or extra fans etc.

Bear in mind that EK have requested a retest for the Supremacy and I will be doing that next thumb.gif

I've got two DDC-1T only run one. Temps increase slightly with the other pump running so it's Emergency use and testing run only. Also there's nothing better than G751 atm so my TIM is good too. May reseat with a thinner application but my Load temp on Supreme HF v1 is 39c on average. And that's with the Mainboard temp flowing into the flow chamber which is an average temp of 32c according to PC Probe II and Hardware Monitor reports Mainboard at 34c so if I'm gonna be putting that money anywhere it's going into another Radiator to add in when I get my GPU under water. thumb.gif

I'm just interested in what the outcome is for the EK blocks though. will be interesting to see what the retest uncovers. :smile.gif

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According to my data yes, however it does appear to do better on Ivy Bridge according to St0ned. Pretty much if you have any of the recent blocks there is little cost benefit in buying a new block because any performance difference will be small. I would still rather have them make a small performance increase than none redface.gif However that doesn't mean that you have to buy it. You might be better off spending that money on another pump or better TIM or extra fans etc. However if you're buying a new block then hopefully this helps you decide thumb.gif I was hoping one of these blocks would really shake things up, but this test has really shown how consolidated everything has become.
Bear in mind that EK have requested a retest for the Supremacy and I will be doing that next thumb.gif
When do you plan to test the DT direct? I'm excited for that one.
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I read the review but am a little confused how would MIPS IceForce HF perform with Alphacool single D5 pump w/ Koolance top @ settings 3 wich is 3450rpm or 1.70Gpm if i am not mistakeing. The rest of the setup will be 2x EX360 RAD, 1x GTX 670 w/ HK block, CPU i7-3820, tube tygon 1/2" - 3/4", fans Scythe AP-14. So, what do you thing? Will MIPS IF do good or not, or should i go with other block? Please help me decide.
Edited by -deluxe- - 10/21/12 at 12:51am
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I read the review but am a little confused how would MIPS IceForce HF perform with Alphacool single D5 pump w/ Koolance top @ settings 3 wich is 3450rpm or 1.70Gpm if i am not mistakeing. The rest of the setup will be 2x EX360 RAD, 1x GTX 670 w/ HK block, CPU i7-3820, tube tygon 1/2" - 3/4", fans Scythe AP-14. So, what do you thing? Will MIPS IF do good or not, or should i go with other block? Please help me decide.

Setting 3 doesn't mean 1.7gpm, it corresponds to a specific flow line on a pressure/flow plot. Your actual flow will depend on the restriction of your loop that the pump has to drive.

One thing we can say is that a d5 at setting 3 is a lot less flow than a MCP35X because a mcp35x at 100% is stronger than a D5 at setting 5. 39% on a mcp35x2 is roughly 100% on a mcp35x. in addition you have 2 rads and 2 blocks.

So your loop restriction is higher than my setup and your pumping power is less. So you definitely want to be looking at how blocks perform vs lower pump power settings. I would therefore read the block performance vs pump setting plot and look at how blocks look at lower pump settings e.g. 24 or 29%. At these settings the Koolance CPU-370 is beating the few other blocks that I've finished on that plot.

So for now that would be my recommendation for you, but not for everyone.
     
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Tnx stren <3 will do as you say. smile.gif Btw i want a near silent set up so do you have any recomendations for a good silent pump? Dont care about the cost, performance matters. smile.gif cheers!
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