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Long time guest, first time poster, hello EVRY1!

I have been using my homebrewed computer for nearly 4 years now, and it is still actually pretty snappy. I spend most of my time browsing the internet, but do some video and audio editing and every-now-and-again, I like to pop in a game. I would definately like to be able to multi-task more than I am able to.

The main reason I am upgrading is to enjoy a quicker computer experience and be able to play a few games at reasonable levels. (The straw that broke this camels back was trying to test Lego Star Wars II for my kids, and, well the results were not pretty.)

So I propose a new build, my budget being $500 and hoping to maintain some upgradability also (Conroe).

Here is what I have come up with, and I am hoping to reach a nice overclock(~3.6 GHZ). Please let me know if there is an elephant in this room. The only thing I am not fairly sure about is the MB, and I am not as familiar with Intel. It looks like a very capable board, with (what looks like) good components.

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MOBO BIOSTAR TFORCE945P Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P ATX Intel

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813138035

GFXCARD BIOSTAR V7602GS21 GeForce 7600GS 256MB GDDR2 PCI-E

PSU HIPRO HP-P500W/TOP-500P5 ATX V2.01 500W Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16817174023

CPU Intel Pentium D 805

RAM WINTEC AMPO 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820161675

HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0

COOLAH ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler

NOBRAINER Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

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I CANNOT go above $500.00, and this weighs in at $499.43.

I already have the case, 1X ide HD and optical drives i need.

OK I think thats it. . . lemme know!
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post #2 of 8
You did not account for shipping costs...so that build will go over $500.

Otherwise, looking good to me.

You can save $10 by picking up an 'Open Box' Pentium D 805
Open Box: Intel Pentium D 805 Smithfield 2.66GHz LGA 775 Dual Core,EM64T Processor Model BX80551PE2666FN - OEM

And there are cheaper 7600GS's (I generally don't include rebates in budgetting, but see it as a nice bonus when I finally get them)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...k=&srchInDesc=
    
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Awesome. Yeah, after shipping, it comes to ~522.00, no biggy. I just din want to see everyone go "well, for only $xxx more you can get a xxxx"

BTW I see ram prices EDGING down SLOWLY. . . its a good thing.

if there is anything else lemme know.

Anyone with experience with this MB? I cannot find any "real" reviews for it, and only two posts on NEWEGG (i have a feeling the second guy wither got a lemon, or doesnt know what he's going [did you SAVE the settings????])

thanks CHOZART
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post #4 of 8
Biostar boards are generally decent, and on the AMD side they have made some nice boards (esp. the tForce series; even their mATX boards overclock well). I saw a comment about BIOS not saving overclock settings in a Newegg review, but that should be fixed with a BIOS flash (if that's true to begin with).

Another good board based on the same chipset is this ASUS:
ASUS P5LD2 R2.0 Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 945P $104.99
It's more expensive, but with the savings I posted in my previous post, you'll be back on budget

I do expect the Biostar to be a good board. It's up to you in the end.
    
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If your looking to overclock I am not so sure about that ram. At least for 2 512 sticks so you can run dual channel. I thought G.Skill had some cheaper stuff but this should do you decently if your still thinking of overclocking higher.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231102

Its your money though so im not going to push anything, GL man!
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post #6 of 8
I think the single stick would be just fine. He then can add a second one easily for 2 x 1GB. Do note that he'll be running a Pentium D 805, so with DDR2 668 he's got plenty of headroom before the RAM even runs at stock.)

When the CPU hits 4.0GHz, the FSB is only 200MHz. That means that even at a 2:3 divider in favor of the RAM, the RAM speed will not even hit stock!
    
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post #7 of 8
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Thats what I was thinking, Chozart. I (hopefully) will be able to get some better timings on the RAM if I underclock it. (At least I was able to do that with other underclocked ram, GEIL and SAMSUNG DDR)

Dual chanel might not be a bad idea though.

If i do get 2X512, and want to up the RAM in the future, that means i would likely end up with 4X512. It seems as though I have heard of some boards having trouble using 4 sticks, or something like that. . .

I might look at the ASUS, dependant on VidCard prices. . . I wish I could find someone who has had the TFORCE945P. I have heard great things about them in the AMD camp, but things are much different around there.
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post #8 of 8
The 4x512MB is more an issue at the AMD side of things.

However, it's always an additional strain on the memory controller.
    
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