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7/30/12 at 8:19pm

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Hello,
Please help to choose, I want to buy phenom 960t (secong hand) or 965be new? Which is the better choice?
My machine spec: Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, 2x2gb 1600 Mhz kingstone, msi twin forz II 5830, hdd Hitachi 2t, psu 550w.
Thanks in advance!

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7/30/12 at 8:22pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spyder66

The 960T has better OC ability and runs cooler,I have both and I say 960T

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD PII x4 960T BE @ 4009MHz	ASUS Crosshair III Formula/Water Cooled(MB-ASC3F)	2x Gigabyte HD 6870(CrossFireX) @ 950/1151	8GB. OCZ DDR3 1600MHz/Gold Edition
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
2x 64GB. Adata S599 SSD's(Raid0)/1x 500GB./1x 1TB.	Pioneer DVD-RW/Optiarc DVD-RW	XSPC Rasa 750 RS360/Black Ice GT Stealth 120	Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
3x ASUS VH196T {Eyefinity} + Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV	Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard	1000W,Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular	Cooler Master HAF 932{AMD Red Limited Edition}
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse	ALLSOP Wide 13.5" x 9"(Black)	Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer[PCI]
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD PII x4 960T BE @ 4009MHz	ASUS Crosshair III Formula/Water Cooled(MB-ASC3F)	2x Gigabyte HD 6870(CrossFireX) @ 950/1151	8GB. OCZ DDR3 1600MHz/Gold Edition
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
2x 64GB. Adata S599 SSD's(Raid0)/1x 500GB./1x 1TB.	Pioneer DVD-RW/Optiarc DVD-RW	XSPC Rasa 750 RS360/Black Ice GT Stealth 120	Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
3x ASUS VH196T {Eyefinity} + Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV	Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard	1000W,Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular	Cooler Master HAF 932{AMD Red Limited Edition}
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse	ALLSOP Wide 13.5" x 9"(Black)	Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer[PCI]
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7/30/12 at 8:54pm

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Not sure if the 965 BE has 2 unlocked cores or not but the 960T does..

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Windows 7 64-Bit	20" Acer 1080P LED 1600x900	Microsoft Wireless Comfort 4000	Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze
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AMD FX-6100	ASRock 990FX Professional Fatal1ty P1.80	EVGA Geforce GTX 560 Ti Fermi Classified	2 X 4GB GSkill Ares 1866mhz
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Corsair Force GT 90Gb Sata 3 6.0Gb/s	WD RE4 500GB Sata 2 3.0Gb/s	Asus DVD-RW	Xigmatek Aegir w/ XAF-F1255
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 64-Bit	20" Acer 1080P LED 1600x900	Microsoft Wireless Comfort 4000	Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze
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7/30/12 at 8:58pm

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Quote:

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Not sure if the 965 BE has 2 unlocked cores or not but the 960T does..

965 BE is just a x4 core,But the 960T has x6 cores.2 of which are disabled.And can be enabled with BIOS settings.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD PII x4 960T BE @ 4009MHz	ASUS Crosshair III Formula/Water Cooled(MB-ASC3F)	2x Gigabyte HD 6870(CrossFireX) @ 950/1151	8GB. OCZ DDR3 1600MHz/Gold Edition
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
2x 64GB. Adata S599 SSD's(Raid0)/1x 500GB./1x 1TB.	Pioneer DVD-RW/Optiarc DVD-RW	XSPC Rasa 750 RS360/Black Ice GT Stealth 120	Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
3x ASUS VH196T {Eyefinity} + Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV	Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard	1000W,Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular	Cooler Master HAF 932{AMD Red Limited Edition}
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse	ALLSOP Wide 13.5" x 9"(Black)	Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer[PCI]
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD PII x4 960T BE @ 4009MHz	ASUS Crosshair III Formula/Water Cooled(MB-ASC3F)	2x Gigabyte HD 6870(CrossFireX) @ 950/1151	8GB. OCZ DDR3 1600MHz/Gold Edition
Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling	OS
2x 64GB. Adata S599 SSD's(Raid0)/1x 500GB./1x 1TB.	Pioneer DVD-RW/Optiarc DVD-RW	XSPC Rasa 750 RS360/Black Ice GT Stealth 120	Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Monitor	Keyboard	Power	Case
3x ASUS VH196T {Eyefinity} + Toshiba 37" LCD HDTV	Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard	1000W,Cooler Master Silent Pro Modular	Cooler Master HAF 932{AMD Red Limited Edition}
Mouse	Mouse Pad	Audio
Logitech MX518 Optical Gaming Mouse	ALLSOP Wide 13.5" x 9"(Black)	Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer[PCI]
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7/30/12 at 8:58pm

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I'd personally stick with the 960T. It's a Black Edition processor like the 965 cousin. Why did I say cousin? The 960T is a hex core with two cores disabled.

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7/30/12 at 9:10pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AMOCO

965 BE is just a x4 core,But the 960T has x6 cores.2 of which are disabled.And can be enabled with BIOS settings.

yeah so id go with the 960T

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD FX-6100	ASRock 990FX Professional Fatal1ty P1.80	EVGA Geforce GTX 560 Ti Fermi Classified	2 X 4GB GSkill Ares 1866mhz
Hard Drive	Hard Drive	Optical Drive	Cooling
Corsair Force GT 90Gb Sata 3 6.0Gb/s	WD RE4 500GB Sata 2 3.0Gb/s	Asus DVD-RW	Xigmatek Aegir w/ XAF-F1255
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 64-Bit	20" Acer 1080P LED 1600x900	Microsoft Wireless Comfort 4000	Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze
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CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
AMD FX-6100	ASRock 990FX Professional Fatal1ty P1.80	EVGA Geforce GTX 560 Ti Fermi Classified	2 X 4GB GSkill Ares 1866mhz
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Corsair Force GT 90Gb Sata 3 6.0Gb/s	WD RE4 500GB Sata 2 3.0Gb/s	Asus DVD-RW	Xigmatek Aegir w/ XAF-F1255
OS	Monitor	Keyboard	Power
Windows 7 64-Bit	20" Acer 1080P LED 1600x900	Microsoft Wireless Comfort 4000	Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze
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8/3/12 at 10:12am

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Thx for help guys.

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8/3/12 at 10:47pm

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960T is the third revision of Phenom II's (E0). So regardless of whether it unlocks to hexacore, it's going to have better performance/watt, less leakage, better memory controller, and clock better.

95W 960T (E0) > 125W 965 (C3) > 140W 965 (C2)

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8/3/12 at 10:49pm

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960T IMC also supports 1600Mhz, Deneb chips only support 1333Mhz.

CPU	Motherboard	Graphics	RAM
FX-8320 @ 4.7Ghz 1.5v	Gigabyte 970A-UD3	XFX 7970 @ 1.1Ghz	8GB Team 1600 7-9-7-24
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Crucial M4 64GB	Samsung F3 500GB	Corsair H100	Windows 7 x86_64
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NEC E222W	HPE 87 w/ Browns + Ducky PBT caps	Seasonic 850W	Chenming Dragon
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8/3/12 at 10:54pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by S.M.

960T IMC also supports 1600Mhz, Deneb chips only support 1333Mhz.

Not true. All AM3 CPU are only officially supported up to DDR3-1333.

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Propus 620	M4A79XTD EVO	Fermi GF 104	Obsidians
Hard Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Agility 2	CLF-F1255	R4-S2S-124K-GP	Hyper T4
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Propus 620	M4A79XTD EVO	Fermi GF 104	Obsidians
Hard Drive	Cooling	Cooling	Cooling
Agility 2	CLF-F1255	R4-S2S-124K-GP	Hyper T4
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EC-MC/CO	Vista 64 dx11	OCZ Modstream Pro 700W	V3
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