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Then I'm sorry but you need a reality check. No company, no matter what is going to do a full recall of it's products for something so trivial. Unless their phone was in some way hurting the customer ( like if they had a bad batch of batteries that were reported to explode whilst the phone was off or on ) then they won't do a full recall.
Was the antenna incident unfortunate? Yes. Was it grounds for a complete recall? No. All it took was using a case ( which most do anyways ) and the problem was fixed. And like you said, it was ackowledged and fixed in later revisions.
Oh my, don't buy Apple for a problem they fixed. Dear god who would want to do that, I mean, no company ever makes mistakes that would just be a mess. rolleyes.gif
You know, you really got me thinking, Dell needs to do a complete recall of their Latitude line for the flaky lid latches. I should get on them about that so I can have my $3,000 4 year old laptop close properly.

Lol it was straight up fault. They fixed it by applying a coating to the phone: http://www.ifixit.com/blog/2010/07/13/is-apple-silently-fixing-the-iphone-4-antenna-issue/ they denied it to limit liability and thus not have to recall.

A company should recall something that is faulty. Intel and the CougarPoint problem? They recalled. Antenna-gate problem? Sell people rubber cases. Dell lid problem? Not going to stop the product form working entirely ok. Antenna-gate? That will. The fact that they fixed it without admitting it was even a problem was unfunny to the point of being totally ridiculous.

And no I don't buy Apple because they make over priced products and engage in crap like this suing the hell out of Google and Android stuff. I prefer Android. It's not their fault they did it better than iOS.
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Then I'm sorry but you need a reality check. No company, no matter what is going to do a full recall of it's products for something so trivial. Unless their phone was in some way hurting the customer ( like if they had a bad batch of batteries that were reported to explode whilst the phone was off or on ) then they won't do a full recall.
Was the antenna incident unfortunate? Yes. Was it grounds for a complete recall? No. All it took was using a case ( which most do anyways ) and the problem was fixed. And like you said, it was ackowledged and fixed in later revisions.
Oh my, don't buy Apple for a problem they fixed. Dear god who would want to do that, I mean, no company ever makes mistakes that would just be a mess. rolleyes.gif
You know, you really got me thinking, Dell needs to do a complete recall of their Latitude line for the flaky lid latches. I should get on them about that so I can have my $3,000 4 year old laptop close properly.

Remember when Toyota recalled thousands of cars in the US because of "unintended acceleration" (Which never even happened outside the US despite the cars being the same)?

http://www.irca.org/en-gb/resources/INform/archive/issue29/Extras/Toyotas-recall/
http://www.cardealexpert.com/news-information/auto-news/lexus-rx-unintended-acceleration-recall/

And yet they recalled and took the losses anyway. thumb.gif

If a car company can do that, so should they.
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Remember when Toyota recalled thousands of cars in the US because of "unintended acceleration" (Which never even happened outside the US despite the cars being the same)?
http://www.irca.org/en-gb/resources/INform/archive/issue29/Extras/Toyotas-recall/
http://www.cardealexpert.com/news-information/auto-news/lexus-rx-unintended-acceleration-recall/
And yet they recalled and took the losses anyway. thumb.gif
If a car company can do that, so should they.

Not to mention Intel recalled their CougarPoint chipset and paid out of their own pocket $3bil despite only 5% of products supposedly affected. I mean, of course they did. It was a fault and that's what should be expected.

Apple denied all knowledge of a fault to avoid having to recall wink.gif And to make it better for them they had an unpaid army of fans harassing the internet about it calling it a non-issue rolleyes.gif
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Just a quick glance.
Fire Hazzard
Fall Hazzard
Risk of Injury or Suffocation
Risk of Impalement
Blade Could Operate While Mower Unattended
Faulty pump fore fire suppression unit
Yeah, so trivial. rolleyes.gif
Those are all rather severe reasons, they are harmful to not just the user, but others around them.
I didn't know you are in that much denial so I'll help you find some with google instead of that huge DB.
Press here.


I liked this one
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Remember when Toyota recalled thousands of cars in the US because of "unintended acceleration" (Which never even happened outside the US despite the cars being the same)?
http://www.irca.org/en-gb/resources/INform/archive/issue29/Extras/Toyotas-recall/
http://www.cardealexpert.com/news-information/auto-news/lexus-rx-unintended-acceleration-recall/
And yet they recalled and took the losses anyway. thumb.gif
If a car company can do that, so should they.

They offered bumper cases and extended the date of when you could return the phone if you really wanted. Antenna-gate was really blown out of proportion IMO but you didn't have to keep the phone if it was problematic for you. But as it goes, the iPhone 4 was the best selling phone so I guess it wasn't that big of an issue.
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I didn't know you are in that much denial so I'll help you find some with google instead of that huge DB.
Press here.
I liked this one

Denial? Have you even looked at the Database? 3 pages of the exact same HAZZARDS. HAZZARDS ARE SEVERE NOT TRIVIAL. The phones antenna problem DID NOT HURT anyone.

And lol @ the last link. I never said it doesn't happen. Of course there are going to be companies that recall things. Oh and that sausage one isn't to be " honest ", it's to preserve their companies image and save them lawsuit money. They don't want to be known as the " Prick with a fork " and having a black man on the package. That has lawsuit written all over it.

As above said, they offered the cases FOR FREE, and they also said " hey, if you want to return the phone because it's not working for you then go ahead ". Such an evil company * shakes fist *
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Remember when Toyota recalled thousands of cars in the US because of "unintended acceleration" (Which never even happened outside the US despite the cars being the same)?
http://www.irca.org/en-gb/resources/INform/archive/issue29/Extras/Toyotas-recall/
http://www.cardealexpert.com/news-information/auto-news/lexus-rx-unintended-acceleration-recall/
And yet they recalled and took the losses anyway. thumb.gif
If a car company can do that, so should they.

so now were are comparing unintended acceleration of a 2500# deadly weapon to a dropped phone call? One is a safety concern, the other is annoying.
 
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so now were are comparing unintended acceleration of a 2500# deadly weapon to a dropped phone call? One is a safety concern, the other is annoying.

They took the huge loss even though the cars were fine for the rest of the world...
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so now were are comparing unintended acceleration of a 2500# deadly weapon to a dropped phone call? One is a safety concern, the other is annoying.

Dropped phone call to 911 from person who is shot/stabbed and bleeding to death?

@shrak
http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/recalls/clothing/00068.html
You'll find if you will try. Your choice is to defend for some reason company that is saying their goal is to make "great products" and not make money.
Reputable company would just do a recall of faulty product when it exceeds certain amount and not just 1 item out of 100 000. Just read how much intel lost money after recalling their mobos that supposedly could degrade in performance of sata.
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Dropped phone call to 911 from person who is shot/stabbed and bleeding to death?
@shrak
http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/recalls/clothing/00068.html
You'll find if you will try. Your choice is to defend for some reason company that is saying their goal is to make "great products" and not make money.
Reputable company would just do a recall of faulty product when it exceeds certain amount and not just 1 item out of 100 000. Just read how much intel lost money after recalling their mobos that supposedly could degrade in performance of sata.

Obviously you didn't see my first post.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1288830/telegraph-apple-design-chief-our-goal-isnt-to-make-money/0_30#post_17834723

Also, this is the DESIGNER talking. Not Apple. The DESIGNER's job IS to make great products. Period.

Also, it's not about being reputable. Stop being so blind.
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