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I'm gonna keep this simple (if that's possible). Based on my 955 system below, would you think it's worth upgrading to Sandy Bridge (build below) or wait for Haswell?

Sandy Bridge build idea:
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EVGA 4GB GTX 670 (upgrade to SLI in future)

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What's your OC? What do you do? If you're gaming.... I'd say hold steady. 955's should hit 4ghz easy, mine does 4.2 without flames shooting out the back. If you're gaming, you don't really need more.... yet. Spend the money on a GTX 670?

If you need more CPU for video or folding or whatever... why Sandy and not Ivy? i5 3750k is only $30 more. But I've been an AMD guy for way too long, so I might be biased. Personally I'm holding out for Piledriver, but will it even matter in games? I doubt it.
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I've been an AMD guy for quite a while, but the performance leap that Intel has been able to amass us too great for me to not jump ship on my next upgrade.

As for sandy vs ivy, the heat issues with ivy makes the oc headroom smaller. While yes, a 5.0 (for example) i5 will perform about the same as a 4.6-4.8 ivy due to the small performance increase. And honestly, I'm not completely against Ivy, but I've built many Sandy builds for buddies/family, and they run like a dream. I can only imagine what a nice OC would do.

I've definitely thought about getting a 670 for my current comp, and if I go that route I'd probably opt to get an SSD for the OS, as that's a HUGE speed upgrade. I'd also probably have to upgrade my PSU. So that'd cost approximately $600-650.

That's definitely a route I'm exploring. As for OC, I'm still @ stock 3.2, as I have yet to get a custom air cooler.

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I know that Haswell won't be an improvement upon Sandy/Ivy bridge for gaming, as the GPU is the bottleneck, but it would be nice for general use, and would definitely OC better than Ivy.

However, not only is the question as to wait for Haswell or not, but also is the next series of GPU's (nVidia 700/ATI 8000) worth waiting for over this series. Specifically i'd get the 670 with this series. I'd think about getting the 7970 GHZ edition, but I hate ATI drivers (See: 7970m enduro).
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Originally Posted by MessinWithSasquatch View Post

I know that Haswell won't be an improvement upon Sandy/Ivy bridge for gaming, as the GPU is the bottleneck, but it would be nice for general use, and would definitely OC better than Ivy.
Actually Haswell should be a massive improvement for next-gen games. New consoles will be launched not long after Haswell, and the games that are developed for them will require lots of CPU power on the PC. Haswell has AVX2 vector instructions, which provide an eightfold speedup over scalar code. It also features TSX, which lowers thread synchronization overhead and thus greatly improves multi-core efficiency.

It's been a long while since there has been such an exciting leap in CPU technology. So it's definitely woth waiting a little longer for Haswell.
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Originally Posted by MessinWithSasquatch View Post

I've been an AMD guy for quite a while, but the performance leap that Intel has been able to amass us too great for me to not jump ship on my next upgrade.
As for sandy vs ivy, the heat issues with ivy makes the oc headroom smaller. While yes, a 5.0 (for example) i5 will perform about the same as a 4.6-4.8 ivy due to the small performance increase. And honestly, I'm not completely against Ivy, but I've built many Sandy builds for buddies/family, and they run like a dream. I can only imagine what a nice OC would do.
I've definitely thought about getting a 670 for my current comp, and if I go that route I'd probably opt to get an SSD for the OS, as that's a HUGE speed upgrade. I'd also probably have to upgrade my PSU. So that'd cost approximately $600-650.
That's definitely a route I'm exploring. As for OC, I'm still @ stock 3.2, as I have yet to get a custom air cooler.
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the ivy bridge does run hotter but that's do to the fact people try overclocking it like its a sandy but its not.
exc.http://www.anandtech.com/show/5763/undervolting-and-overclocking-on-ivy-bridge
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I say wait for haswell for sure. It's Intel's "tock" architecture and it's going to be new one unlike Ivy. thumb.gif
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I have read some good things about haswell but what im wondering is whether or not the IB-E chips will be using a different chipset than the SB-E chips
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post #9 of 9
Unless your CPU is holding your system back to a point where you feel an upgrade will provide a much more pleasant experience, it probably isn't worth it.
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