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that's pretty damn indisputable. anyone who's been on gsmarena since 2001 would know this.
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Delusional I see. Samsung may or may not have infringed on some patents, that is for the courts to decide. But to sit back and think Samsung was not influenced by the Apple designs, their huge sales, and tried to mimic their success? C'mon man...

Still living in that false illusion eh? Apple may or may not have actual inventions to patent, that's for the courts to decide. But to sit back and think Apple devices were not manufactured mostly by Samsung, whose larger sales thanks to phones that range from entry level to high end, and tried to squelch their success through lawsuits? O'k bro...
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Haha how stupid can this get! Apple already showed it's prototypes come from around August 2005 predating all this junk.

Also what this Biased source did not cover is:

Samsung angers judge by sending rejected evidence from Apple trial to the media
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The Apple vs. Samsung trial was always destined to be a circus, but Samsung's already causing trouble on the first day of testimony: Judge Lucy Koh is furious that the company sent the press rejected evidence after the court overruled repeated attempts to introduce it at trial.

Samsung has been desperate to tell the jury about its F700 phone — which was in development months before the January 2007 introduction of the iPhone — and internal Apple emails that show the company pursuing a "Sony-style" design for the phone. All of this information has been public for days, but Samsung's motions to include it at trial have been denied because the company produced it too late in the discovery process. (For what it's worth, Apple has vociferously denied that the iPhone was inspired by Sony, claiming the mockup was just a fun design exercise based on an existing idea.)

""Don't make me sanction you. Please.""

Samsung has already appealed the rulings denying the evidence, but that didn't stop the company's lawyers from trying again today after Apple briefly showed the F700 on a slide during its opening statements. Claiming that Apple had "opened the door" to discussion of the F700, Samsung asked the court to reconsider. That didn't go so well with Judge Koh, who noted that "Samsung has filed like 10 motions for reconsideration," and asked Samsung lead attorney John Quinn to sit back down. At one point in the exchange Quinn told Koh that he was "begging the court," and desperately asked "what's the point in having a trial?" — but Koh simply wasn't buying it. "Don't make me sanction you," she said. "Please."

""I want to know who authorized it.""

That woud have been the end of it — except Samsung immediately emailed its rejected slides regarding F700 development and the "Sony-style" prototype to the press with a statement saying "The excluded evidence would have established beyond doubt that Samsung did not copy the iPhone design." All Things D and several other outlets ran the slides and the statement, giving new public life to rejected evidence — and eventually Judge Koh found out.

In the words of Verge courtroom reporter Bryan Bishop, Koh was "livid" when she found out about the All Things D story and press release, and demanded to know if Quinn was involved. "I want Mr. Quinn's declaration as to what his role was," said Koh. "I want to know who authorized it." The trial eventually moved on, but Samsung's little gambit may have cost it one more ounce of goodwill from a judge who's clearly unhappy with both sides for failing to settle. Of course, with Samsung's repeated protestations entered into the court record, there's always the chance that the company's team is setting the stage for an appeal should Apple emerge victorious — but we'll have to see how the rest of the trial plays out first.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/31/3209204/samsung-angers-judge-by-sending-media-rejected-evidence-in-apple-trial

These guys are digging their own grave with their childish behavior doh.gif
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Haha how stupid can this get! Apple already showed it's prototypes come from around August 2005 predating all this junk.
Also what this Biased source did not cover is:
Samsung angers judge by sending rejected evidence from Apple trial to the media

http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/31/3209204/samsung-angers-judge-by-sending-media-rejected-evidence-in-apple-trial
These guys are digging their own grave with their childish behavior doh.gif

LOL< childish behaviour? Apple brought up the F700 and then Samsung can't use it as evidence?

Also, the 2005 iPhone prototypes mean NOTHING. The case is that Samsung are copying Apple, the Samsung image proves they were NOT since they have prototypes of all their phones and amny predate the iPhone. Since companies generally don't share prototype information it PROVES that Samsung developed independantly.
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Because Asus is no threat to Apple and will never be.

Did you forget how Apple threaten Asus's manufacturer to stop making Asus Zen Book?
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My Toyota and my wife's Ford look a LOT alike! I think Ford should sue Toyota!! They both have the head lights in the same location, same with ALL of their mirrors! For that matter, they even have two seats in the front! THE NERVE! Then Toyota even stole the circular device used to steer the car! I don't even want to get into the fact that both radios are even in the same place as the slot used to start the car... I smell a massive lawsuit against all car manufacturers!!!!
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This is a trade dress dispute. All of Apple's iToys look the same they're familial you generally pick them out from 10 feet. Apple is in essence saying that Samsung copied apples trade dress, this brings us the rectangle with rounded corners etc. stuff that gets bandied about on these threads is trying to describe trade dress. Describing trade dress is like trying to describe quality, it's difficult but you know it when you see it feel it.

Apple is contending they were the first phone to carry what is now Apple "trade dress" and that Samsung buy "copying" the iPhone was using apple trade dress. If they can prove that then they can ask for damages because of lost sales. It gets sticky because trade dress descriptions are vague and broad. I personally can't describe any phone or computer with out being vague and broad but you can tell a Lenovo from a from a Dell quite easily but yet if you were trying to describe them in words they sound fairly similar. The prior art is important because it quantifies the trade dress description and who was first with that style. The Prada that get brought up constantly is the same it fits the description well but looks nothing like an iPhone.

The TV argument doesn't really work yes all TV's are generally now 16:9 screens with black bezels but you can mostly tell the difference between them.

The other problem here is we're looking at the story but we know the end our villains are chosen/exposed the sales in this case are over the design has since diverged. In 03 - 06 the story was unfolding so they didn't get the benefit of hind sight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_dress
 
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And this is still the best of all the GUI's slider_fanboy.png 128k .png file
 
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And this is still the best of all the GUI's slider_fanboy.png 128k .png file

I absolutely love my windows phone. I have a friend that has a Android Nexus (maybe 6 months old?) and his brother has one too. Both say that my Windows 7 phone is faster...

Obviously the nexus has MUCH better specs, but the OS is just soo smooth and intuitive
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^ Try and S3 and say that again wink.gif
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