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Hello everyone
Firs let me start by thanking everyone on this forum as it was the biggest help for me when it comes to pc related subject

So what I wanna build is a pc that will help me as an engineer with CAD designing and simulation ( using software like autocad, autodesk inventor, and solidworks. etc), and as a photographer (a lot of video and photo editing).

here is a link to the build log http://www.overclock.net/t/1296821/build-log-blackbird-th10-r4e-3930k-gtx680-4gb-watercooled#post_17984583

Se here is what I have in mind so far

For the case: no doubt case labs thumb.gif and I choose to go with the th10 so that's about $600
Cpu: 3930k ( would like to get ~ 4.60ghz stable 24/7 )
MB: Asus R4E
videocards: 2x evga gtx 680 4gb in sli ( I didn't want to go with the FTW as I want to use full cover water blocks which are not available for the FTW)
Ram: mushkin redline 32gb (4x8gb) 1866 ( any other suggestiongs)
Psu: ax1200
Ssd: crucial m4 265gb (for operatin system and softwares)
Hard drive: wd black rapid 2tb (plus I have another 2 right now for a total of 6tb)
Monitors: I already have one Dell u2412m and I'll buy 2 more

All the above comes to about $3500 on new egg plus $ 600 for the case that's $4100

Any advise on the above parts is very appreciated

Now to the tricky part the cooling system. which I really need help choosing the parts for
I'm looking for something relatively quiet so

For the pumps I'll be using dual mcp655's on a bitspower dual top (is this a better choice than mcp35x2 ???)
rads: 2x sr-1 480 (or gtx 480 ??)
Fans: GT ap15 (8 fans for the rads in either push or pull plus case fans)
cpu block : ek nickel ( but I heard they have issues so what would be other good option)
gbu blocks: ek csq nickel ( same issue with the nickel)
And I already have: ek R4E acetl + nickel kit ( got it from a friend of mine who moved to sr-x dual xeon build for dirt cheep. i wonder if the nickle would cause any issues).
Reservoir: I have no clue what to get
All the above plus fittings, hoses, and fan controller comes to about $1400

So that's a total of $5500

I'm really not sure about any of the things that I selected as this is my first ever build.... so any input would be appreciated

Thanks in advance

Update:
alot of things changed in my mind since I started the thread and I finally ordered most of the patrs

  • case: TH10 received and it looks awesome thumb.gif
  • cpu: 3930K shipped
  • mobo: asus R4E shipped
  • gpu: i'll be waiting for the new ati firepro W5000 to be available. meanwhile i ordered GTX680 4GB and its shipped
  • PSU: I ordered the seasonic platinum 1000 but i returned it and i went waaaaay overkill with the new corsair ax1200i (and before you start talking about that i have a reason which i'll state in my build log thread)
  • ram: the mushkin is out of stock mad.gif so i ordered 2X samsung 8gb(2x4gb) kits as a temporary solution (who knows i might like it)
  • Ssd: crucial m4 265gb shipped
  • watercooling parts all ordered and shipped thumb.gif

thanks everyone for the awesome feedback and wait for the build log which is coming as soon as i have most of my parts hopefully by next week. but until then i'll be like a kid waiting for Santa
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All I can say is that the AX1200 is extremely major overkill.  Even a quality 650W PSU is enough for all of this (I know you're planning on having two GTX 680s).

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You might look around to see if you can find any benchmarks that show 7970 compute performance vs the 680 compute performance for the specific applications you use. The 7970 is often superior to the 680 for compute assist.

Also, what 2cables said about the PSU. If you want to really over spend on PSU, get a Seasonic x-750 or x-850. Their x-series provides a hybrid fanless mode that will completely turn off the PSU fan if it isn't needed. Otherwise any quality modular 750 or 850 solution will be more than plenty.
    
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The stick is right!! The 1200 is extreme overkill in this scenario. Just to be safe, I'd go with a 750 as Fred suggested.
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I have noticed that threads in which the OP presents something like "first build $6000.00 budget" do not get as many comments as a guy that presents a modest plan, it is simply something I have noticed after reading so many "help me" type threads,and I have read many.Sure we need to know the budget but with 6000.00 to spend you have so many choices and people will have different views on how to spend 6000.00, but still the modest plans get more response.
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Originally Posted by mike.mg View Post

Hello everyone
Firs let me start by thanking everyone on this forum as it was the biggest help for me when it comes to pc related subject
So what I wanna build is a pc that will help me as an engineer with CAD designing and simulation ( using software like autocad, autodesk inventor, and solidworks. etc), and as a photographer (a lot of video and photo editing).
Se here is what I have in mind so far
For the case: no doubt case labs thumb.gif and I choose to go with the th10 so that's about $600
Cpu: 3930k ( would like to get ~ 4.60ghz stable 24/7 )
MB: Asus R4E
videocards: 2x evga gtx 680 4gb in sli ( I didn't want to go with the FTW as I want to use full cover water blocks which are not available for the FTW)
Ram: mushkin redline 32gb (4x8gb) 1866 ( any other suggestiongs)
Psu: ax1200
Ssd: crucial m4 265gb (for operatin system and softwares)
Hard drive: wd black rapid 2tb (plus I have another 2 right now for a total of 6tb)
Monitors: I already have one Dell u2412m and I'll buy 2 more
All the above comes to about $3500 on new egg plus $ 600 for the case that's $4100
Any advise on the above parts is very appreciated
Now to the tricky part the cooling system. which I really need help choosing the parts for
I'm looking for something relatively quiet so
For the pumps I'll be using dual mcp655's on a bitspower dual top (is this a better choice than mcp35x2 ???)
rads: 2x sr-1 480 (or gtx 480 ??)
Fans: GT ap15 (8 fans for the rads in either push or pull plus case fans)
cpu block : ek nickel ( but I heard they have issues so what would be other good option)
gbu blocks: ek csq nickel ( same issue with the nickel)
And I already have: ek R4E acetl + nickel kit ( got it from a friend of mine who moved to sr-x dual xeon build for dirt cheep. i wonder if the nickle would cause any issues).
Reservoir: I have no clue what to get
All the above plus fittings, hoses, and fan controller comes to about $1400
So that's a total of $5500
I'm really not sure about any of the things that I selected as this is my first ever build.... so any input would be appreciated
Thanks in advance

As previously stated your power supply is way overkill. Here are a few options that I would consider:

Power Supply:
If you are planning to add voltage to the 680s then I would recommend getting a 750 watt power supply. When you increase the voltage the amount of power used goes up exponentially.
Motherboard:
Solid motherboard. A bit on the pricey side but still a great board. ASRock Extreme9 and the ASRock Extreme11 come to mind as amazing boards.
RAM:
I would check out the Samsung 30nm RAM. Their stock timings don't look very great since they are 1600 CAS 9 but they have been proven to overclock well into the 2000s with relatively tight timings

Those are the only components I would look at changing or am a bit uneasy about.

In regards to the water cooling here you go:
Pump:
Two D5 pumps like you listed will work great. The MCP35X tend to put out a good bit of heat. Even though the MCP35X put out a little better head pressure I would still recommend going with the dual D5 pumps.
CPU Block:
I would not get any nickel plated blocks from EK. Even though they have their new process for nickel plating I'm not a fan of the way it was handled. Great products but I would avoid nickel plated ones. Other blocks that I would look into are as follows. They will all perform within 1C of each other and you won't really notice much of a difference of each other. You'll get a larger variation from the individual mount then switching out the blocks.
XSPC Raystorm
EK Supremacy
Heatkiller 3.0
Kryos XT
GPU Block:
Same thing goes for this. I would avoid the nickel plated blocks from EK.
Radiator Fans:
The Gentle Typhoon fans are about as overrated/overpriced as you can get. I would look at the Swiftech Helix fans which are rated at higher static pressure and equal sound levels. Also I would look at the xspc xinruilian 2000 rpm. They give better static pressure then both the AP-15s and the Swiftech Helix fans but they are a bit louder.
Radiator:
This is pretty much dependent of the fans that you want to use. Some radiators are better suited for low speed fans while others perform better with high speed fans
Reservoir:
There are a few different kind. I would actually look for one that incorporates your pumps as well. There are a few reservoirs that can run the pumps in series while being connected to the back of the dual bay reservoir.
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The stick is right!! The 1200 is extreme overkill in this scenario. Just to be safe, I'd go with a 750 as Fred suggested.

 

lol @ "the stick"

 

I think this one is sticking.  hahaha  :)

 

That's the best I got right now.

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You might look around to see if you can find any benchmarks that show 7970 compute performance vs the 680 compute performance for the specific applications you use. The 7970 is often superior to the 680 for compute assist.
Also, what 2cables said about the PSU. If you want to really over spend on PSU, get a Seasonic x-750 or x-850. Their x-series provides a hybrid fanless mode that will completely turn off the PSU fan if it isn't needed. Otherwise any quality modular 750 or 850 solution will be more than plenty.

I'd like to reiterate what MisterFred said -- DO NOT buy GTX 680s for this. Their computer power was specifically crippled by Nvidia to maintain Quadro's relevancy.
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lol @ "the stick"

I think this one is sticking.  hahaha  smile.gif

That's the best I got right now.

Of course! It "sticks" *Dr. Evil finger thing*

Plus, that's how I fondly remember you biggrin.gif
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You might look around to see if you can find any benchmarks that show 7970 compute performance vs the 680 compute performance for the specific applications you use. The 7970 is often superior to the 680 for compute assist.
Also, what 2cables said about the PSU. If you want to really over spend on PSU, get a Seasonic x-750 or x-850. Their x-series provides a hybrid fanless mode that will completely turn off the PSU fan if it isn't needed. Otherwise any quality modular 750 or 850 solution will be more than plenty.

This may be true, but CUDA is more widely adopted than AMD's propriety acceleration. In terms of compute, the GTX 680 is equal to a GTX 560 Ti which is still plenty fast.

You can always upgrade to the compute-oriented GK110 when it launches.
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