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The only time I recommend more then a 650 is with 2 or more 7970 and depending on which 680s. If the 680 has a locked voltage then a 650 watt is fine. But once you start messing with the GPU voltage the power draw goes up very quickly and with two of them I typically would say go with a 750 solely because of that extra voltage adjustment. Do you know of any links that show an overvolted SLI 680 set up?

 

Not yet.  I'm glad you said this though because I didn't know this part.

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Not yet.  I'm glad you said this though because I didn't know this part.

Yea. The same thing happened with the 69XX series when you adjusted the power cap. You could really see a difference with those. Phaedrus even put an option in there just for the 69XX series since it made such a difference.
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Yea. The same thing happened with the 69XX series when you adjusted the power cap. You could really see a difference with those. Phaedrus even put an option in there just for the 69XX series since it made such a difference.

 

It's funny you said that because I almost included something about that in that last reply there.  I was going to say something like, "It sounds like the GTX 680 is like the 6900 series in this respect!", but then I became scared of remembering incorrectly.  lol

 

How is the power cap adjusted?

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It's funny you said that because I almost included something about that in that last reply there.  I was going to say something like, "It sounds like the GTX 680 is like the 6900 series in this respect!", but then I became scared of remembering incorrectly.  lol

How is the power cap adjusted?

That was only for the 69XX series. I believe it was a bios flashing thing but I can't really be certain off the top of my head.
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That was only for the 69XX series. I believe it was a bios flashing thing but I can't really be certain off the top of my head.

 

So, then can I say that it might not be that common for GTX 680 owners to do that?

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So, then can I say that it might not be that common for GTX 680 owners to do that?

Sorry for the confusion but what I was talking about with the 680 is that some of the 680s have a fixed voltage while some do not. For example the MSI 680s and the EVGA Classified 680 can all have their voltage adjusted. There are other cards that can be adjust through a bios flash. The 69XX series had to do with being able to give it +20% power through bios adjustment. I'm not 100% sure about the 69XX series though.
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Power supplies degrade over time and with heavy use. They will run cooler and quieter if they are not stressed and last longer. I'm not saying a 1200W PSU is needed, I wouldn't go so far as to get a 1200 for this setup. All I am saying is that I wouldn't hesitate to spend what amounts to the price of 2 or 3 fittings out of your watercooling setup to get a few extra watts. If worse case calculations come out to 600W, I personally wouldn't buy a 650W PSU. Especially when stepping up to an 850W amounts to about 0.5% of the total build cost. But that's me. You guys can do what you want.
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Power supplies degrade over time and with heavy use. They will run cooler and quieter if they are not stressed and last longer. I'm not saying a 1200W PSU is needed, I wouldn't go so far as to get a 1200 for this setup. All I am saying is that I wouldn't hesitate to spend what amounts to the price of 2 or 3 fittings out of your watercooling setup to get a few extra watts. If worse case calculations come out to 600W, I personally wouldn't buy a 650W PSU. Especially when stepping up to an 850W amounts to about 0.5% of the total build cost. But that's me. You guys can do what you want.

Just because it's only .5% doesn't mean you should spend it. If you start doing that will all your components you're going to end up going over budget. If calculations say that a 600 watt power supply will easily run a rig then I wouldn't bother getting anything more then a 650 watt. I would only get the 650 watt because they there is typically a better selection at 650 then 600. Also in regards to the "heavy use" comment I don't really see it that way. Power supplies are designed to be at peak efficiency around 80% load making it a better idea to get an appropriate power supply for the rig.
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lol really 4 pages of people arguing about power supplies on a large budget build..... Come on PSU are cheapish, it's simple enough just get a Good Quality 1000w -1300w PSU such as the corsair that you have nominated, Who cares about the fact more than 40% more Watts than needed it's only $200-$300 of a 6k build! (To much watts never hurts but two little may, NM and what to little is)

Anyway

Just recently build a system quite similar what you plan to build (and yes a few aspects such as the PSU is possibly overkill rolleyes.gif ) What i would recommend is after building my system is

1. Get 2 x 256 M4 ssd and raid 0 them - I personnel intend to do this myself sometime soon (btw IF you stick with the RE4 just remember to get the new Diver of Asus web sit otherwise windows will not recognized the HDD setup!)

2. As a fan controller get an Aquacomputers AQ5 they work well love mine! well worth checking out imo.

3. For the pumps both are fine just what ever suits your setup the best just make sure you have them set up so you can under volt them a bit if your keen on reducing noise! I personnel have 2 DDC-1 which are notably less powerful than both mcp655's or the mcp35X which provide at full speed 1.4gpm flow which is more than enough. (BTW one mcp35X is more than capable for you loop but i get wanting two have 2! )

4. Just get Regular 680 or a 690 imo the 4g version are not worth the extra i would personnel just get something which can be WC.

5. It always ends up costing more than you thought it would lol

Other wise i would stick with what you plan to buy GL OP , And btw nice choose of case! thumb.gif
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Just because it's only .5% doesn't mean you should spend it. If you start doing that will all your components you're going to end up going over budget. If calculations say that a 600 watt power supply will easily run a rig then I wouldn't bother getting anything more then a 650 watt. I would only get the 650 watt because they there is typically a better selection at 650 then 600. Also in regards to the "heavy use" comment I don't really see it that way. Power supplies are designed to be at peak efficiency around 80% load making it a better idea to get an appropriate power supply for the rig.

He already is already going far above the point of diminishing returns for a little more performance, why not carry that into the PSU as well?

I look at it like just about anything else you buy. The harder you stress it, the more likely you are to get a premature failure. Even if the stress is within design parameters.
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