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lol yeah that name is funny.  I love how it all stems from me saying "I don't want to be a stick in the mud"

I started it all biggrin.gif

If the OP would want to play it safe, I still recommend an 850W, but only if you feel the need that future expansions way cause power issues.

A 700-750W PSU would be ideal, giving you enough headroom, without any concerns. But your mileage may vary.
post #62 of 97
I would still go with a bigger PSU. If you're going to go GK110 (2 way, 3 way or 4 way) in the future when they release and have a highly OCd SB-E in your sig that 750W is suddenly not going to be enough. SB-E pulls a ton more power at load with high frequencies than SB or IB or even AMDs stuff do:


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With GK110 having 7.1 billion transistors link and most likely a ~600mm^2 die the highest end single GPU card will most likely be near the 300W range before OCing (GeForce cards are just the more leaky parts that didn't make it into teslas, so GeForce GK110s will draw a ton of power). After OCing, I don't even want to go there, we'll just have to wait but most likely well above 300W.

Besides in the big scheme of things GPUs have been getting more and more power hungry. Yes there are some strange exceptions like the pretty fail GF100 or NV going with a small GK104 chip this time around. But looking at a longer time frame power requirements have just gone up, especially in the high end stuff for both CPUs and GPUs. For example intel is planning a 160W TDP for haswell-E. link

So yes for future proofing I'd go with a 1200W. Not like this build is in need of some penny pinching...
 
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But it's not good for a PSU to have that small of a load on it 24/7.  If he wants to go overkill for future proofing, then the max I will recommend is a quality 850W power supply, and that is my final word on it.

 

I don't know how much more energy I can put into this.

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post #64 of 97
I can't help it but with a budget like this, where a small saving isn't that important I just can't recommend a product that would not handle a 5ghz+ SB-E and OCd GK110s (a bit speculation on the GK110s of course but it's one of the safest bets you can do when it comes to predicting power draw of future HW). That coupled with PSUs running more efficiently at around 50% load than near their max I would not want a fully loaded PSU power my system that's at 100% load 24/7.

Buying the higher wattage one doesn't hurt the system, yes it costs a bit more but in the end if you can be certain that you'll be able to just swap in 2x or 3x of the next gen GPUs that are specifically designed to be GPGPU monsters I think that small increase in cost is worth it.
 
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post #65 of 97

I guess the next time someone comes along with a budget this big, then I'll just flat-out recommend the best 1200W power supply.

 

So, my personal recommendation would then be the 1200W Antec High Current Pro since this hasn't been recommended yet (I don't want to waste anyone's time repeating any of the already-recommended PSUs):

 

http://www.antec.com/product.php?id=2468&fid=343

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371043

 

I feel stupid doing this for a build that'll never need a PSU with a true continuous capacity any larger than 650-750W, but whatever.  It's not my system, so hey:  go for it!  rolleyes.gif

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post #66 of 97
I'll be honest, I went for the CP-1000 knowing full well it was overkill. But I can afford to run it, I like the massive headroom, and I haven't had one fail on me yet.
post #67 of 97
You should be shopping Quadro or comparable workstation GPUs. Lord knows you can afford it. And if you'll be doing any rendering they'll make a big difference.
 
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post #68 of 97
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woooooow woooow come down guys:p
Sorry I couldn't reply in the past few days I was on an oilrig that almost had a blowout and we had to deal with ton of crap
Any how reading through all the posts and I went and did some more reading a lot of things that I'm conceding a lot of changes (I found out that my background on the hardware side is a Lil rusty and needed updates)
First, now I'm really conceding a work station gpu just because I found out that solidworks have issues with non quadro non firepro cards and I'd like to work on my graduation project from home instead of having to go to the school lab I'm sick of it by now tongue.gif..... So I was thinking of getting the ati firepro v5900 ($409 on newegg) after looking up some test on cad apps I think that it should be good for what I'll be doing
Hek I'm even thinking of having gaming cards and a work station card on the same rig... I don't know if that even posibble ( my nurdy side tells me that I really wanna be able to game on triple monitors and and I don't think the 5900 will cut it
I've read of some people having ati gaming cards plus an Nvidia for physix on that same rig successfully but I don't know if it's possible in my case to have a single 680 and the ati v5900 and later on if the 680 didn't cut it for triple monitors I might add another one for sli... And that would save me some money too coz the 5900 is only $400 instead of the sli 680 and their water blocks
But yah please if anyone know if it's possible to have a single 680 for 3 monitors gaming and firepro v5900 for solidworks and autodesk softwares on the same rig that would be awesome
And for that guys arguing about the Psu I think I'm convinced to get something like Seasonic 1000 platinum (I know it's not 850 or 750) but just in case in the far future I decided to build a dual xeon rig I would be able to use my pus without worrying (definitely not anytime soon but I'd like to have that option)
Really thank you guys for all the replies... And now I really gotta makeup my mind coz in need to order the parts soon coz the school starts in 2 weeks and I'd like to have the pc so I start working on my graduation project ASAP (really pumped about it biggrin.gif)
But yah thanks again guys and any answer to the possibility of having ati and Nvidia on the same rig would be appreciated
    
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post #69 of 97
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don't listen to the others, get a 1200w PSU for the option of future upgradability. I would go tri or quad sli too with that budget, that or spend the remaining money on a high resolution monitor

^I agree with this..Get the big PSU tongue.gif
 
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post #70 of 97
Ouch. Bummer about the oilrig blowout. Sounds like you have a good plan though. The seasonic 1000 platinum is one of the best PSU's available. The reviewers drool over it anyway, so you won't be disappointed there.
    
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