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no matter how many times u tell me to build it for him he still wants it pre built.

That said is there a site that has the following config?

Gtx 570 --- 2.5gb? Is 1.2gb good enough for a single 1080p screen?
i5 3570 --- he has no interest in overclocking, also no need for hyperthreading all he wants to do is game
brand name 8gb 1600 ram
650w psu
z77 mobo --- which one? there will be no overclocking so a cheaper one will suffice

thouughts?

what's the in game difference between the 560ti and the 570, I'm trying to shave off money where ever possible

Thanks!!
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why don't you build it for him? it will save him money and he will get the exact parts he wants?
for the $1500 mark I recommend my current sig rig all the parts can be had for that price range and it is an awesome machine and plays anything maxed with good fps
I agree for most of the parts, but some of them can be had better for the same price range.
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He doesnt want me to build it he wants it under warranty from a 3rd party company...dont ask me lol its what he wants. Also, he knows nothing about computers so I will be largely selecting the parts for him. Thoughts? Any solid sites that will build gaming pcs?
Every piece of hardware comes with its own warranty, so if something breaks you don't have to send the entire machine back (ie if the GPU goes bad you can still run the machine with onboard video). I honestly think he wouldn't mind you building it, if you both build it together. Him watching you do it should be more then enough to ease anyone's mind. Because the problem with prebuilt machines, is these company's always give retail markups. You end up spending $1800 for a machine that costs $1200 if you build it yourself. With the same length warranty! most parts come with at least 3 years warranty.
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no matter how many times u tell me to build it for him he still wants it pre built.
That said is there a site that has the following config?
Gtx 570 --- 2.5gb? Is 1.2gb good enough for a single 1080p screen?
i5 3570 --- he has no interest in overclocking, also no need for hyperthreading all he wants to do is game
brand name 8gb 1600 ram
650w psu
z77 mobo --- which one? there will be no overclocking so a cheaper one will suffice
thouughts?
what's the in game difference between the 560ti and the 570, I'm trying to shave off money where ever possible
Thanks!!
Maybe you should invite him over and show him this thread? Otherwise if there isn't a big price difference a 2.5GB model will be better for high memory saturating games like GTA IV. As for the z77, id go with anything thats a hot buy on Newegg for the right price (use Newegg as a reference). Tho I personally would get a GTX 660 Ti over an GTX 570. As the few real benches show it out performing it by far.
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no matter how many times u tell me to build it for him he still wants it pre built.
That said is there a site that has the following config?
Gtx 570 --- 2.5gb? Is 1.2gb good enough for a single 1080p screen?
i5 3570 --- he has no interest in overclocking, also no need for hyperthreading all he wants to do is game
brand name 8gb 1600 ram
650w psu
z77 mobo --- which one? there will be no overclocking so a cheaper one will suffice
thouughts?
what's the in game difference between the 560ti and the 570, I'm trying to shave off money where ever possible
Thanks!!

If he's not overclocking, the cheapest Asus/Gigabyte/ASRock board is fine. MSi motherboards are getting better, I haven't used any so I can't really say. Why the concern about "brand name" RAM (I haven't seen a custom desktop builder use "generic" RAM)? Everything except Centon, Team, and Averix are brand name (memory made by Elpida, Hynix, Micron, or Samsung - all are high quality). G.Skill is what iBuyPower uses, and G.Skill is pretty high quality.

Like others said, iBuyPower is a good option. 650W PSU is a bit overkill. 1.2GB of VRAM is enough for 1080p. Name a price, when it's needed by, and does it have to be Nvidia? The GTX 660 and 660 Ti are coming out in a week or so, 660 Ti looks to be just 10% slower than the 670, putting it a little faster than GTX 580. Right now the 7850 and 7950 are the best bang/buck. 7850 is a little faster than 6950, can overclock past 6970/ 570 performance. 6950 in turn is faster than a 560 Ti, by ~10%, maybe a little less. 7950 is as fast as a GTX 580 at stock, but with both overclocked the 7950 is a solid 10%+ faster.

But if it's between 560 Ti and 570, tight budget, WoW gaming.. 560 Ti.

Oh, and obligatory "build the dang desktop!" comment- the last desktop I built took perhaps an hour. If the parts aren't DOA, most everything will last a long time: RAM lasts practically forever, same with CPU, motherboard w/ solid capacitors will last 8+ years - no caps to leak/puff out! No overclocking - so heat won't be an issue. Graphics cards and PSUs are probably the least reliable components- but if you get a high-quality PSU it'll last well over 5 years. Graphics, hard to say, get something like an MSi Twin Frozr, don't overclock it, and it'll last a long time. MSi TF II/ III are good because they usually have more VRMs than typical cards, solid caps (ok, pretty much any GPU *should* have solid caps), run quieter and cool better than reference model. Pretend to order from iBuyPower and pocket the difference, tell him you'll overnight anything that breaks with the $300 saved biggrin.gif
 
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no matter how many times u tell me to build it for him he still wants it pre built.
That said is there a site that has the following config?
Gtx 570 --- 2.5gb? Is 1.2gb good enough for a single 1080p screen?
i5 3570 --- he has no interest in overclocking, also no need for hyperthreading all he wants to do is game
brand name 8gb 1600 ram
650w psu
z77 mobo --- which one? there will be no overclocking so a cheaper one will suffice
thouughts?
what's the in game difference between the 560ti and the 570, I'm trying to shave off money where ever possible
Thanks!!

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This seems to be about right. My friend says he wants roughly 75% the graphics power that my computer has. I have a 670, is the 570 roughly 75% of the 670? if not what is around that speed?
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This seems to be about right. My friend says he wants roughly 75% the graphics power that my computer has. I have a 670, is the 570 roughly 75% of the 670? if not what is around that speed?
I'd say about 85%.
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why don't you just build him one? it's cheaper and you can make profit out of it, lol

Alienware Aurora $1500
Processor: Intel i7-3820
ram: 8gb 1600mhz
gpu: GTX555 1gb (LOL!)
hard drive: 1TB 7200rpm
case: Alienware Aurora Case
disk drive: x24dvd burner
No monitor BTW
CANNOT MAX ALL GAMES AT 1080p AT 60fps SOLID!!!

WHEN YOU CAN BUY: (parts off of tigerdirect.com)
Processor: intel i5-3570k
ram: PNY 1600mhz 2x4 kit
gpu: gtx670 4gb
hdd: Seagate Barracuda 1.5TB
mobo: MSI Z77A-G45
Disk drive: Lite-on Internal 24x dvd burner
Psu: cooler master silent pro M850
case: thermaltake v3 black edition
cpu fan: coolermaster hyper 212+
5 case fans for maximum airflow 50$
TOTAL: $1234.93
WILL MAX ALL GAMES AT 1080p AT 60fps SOLID!!!

then charge him the 250 for your craftmanship if you want.
all of the parts listed have a 3 or 5 year warranty on it.
ALL WARRANTYS are a pain in the butt so either way he is gonna have RMA'ing things if it comes to that.
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I'd say about 85%.

well i know a 670 is as strong as 2 560's in SLI.
and that is brutally strong for a lesser price, lesser power output, etc.
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well i know a 670 is as strong as 2 560's in SLI.
and that is brutally strong for a lesser price, lesser power output, etc.

So how what card runns about 75% of that of a 670?
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