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This seems to be about right. My friend says he wants roughly 75% the graphics power that my computer has. I have a 670, is the 570 roughly 75% of the 670? if not what is around that speed?

Really depends on the Game. Some it will be ~75% and others will be about 60%.
My GTX 680 is about the same performance as my 570 SLI setup I had previously.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/598?vs=518
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http://www.doghousesystems.com/

If I didn't build my own, I'd buy from them.
 
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http://www.doghousesystems.com/
If I didn't build my own, I'd buy from them.

I wouldn't that is some terrible value, $1300 and an i3 w/ a 550Ti, I would go with Cyberpower instead. xD
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post #84 of 107
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no matter how many times u tell me to build it for him he still wants it pre built.
That said is there a site that has the following config?
Gtx 570 --- 2.5gb? Is 1.2gb good enough for a single 1080p screen?
i5 3570 --- he has no interest in overclocking, also no need for hyperthreading all he wants to do is game
brand name 8gb 1600 ram
650w psu
z77 mobo --- which one? there will be no overclocking so a cheaper one will suffice
thouughts?
what's the in game difference between the 560ti and the 570, I'm trying to shave off money where ever possible
Thanks!!

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Case: NZXT Tempest 210 Mid-Tower Gaming Case [-12] (Black Color)

CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-3570 3.40 GHz 6MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 [-24]

Cooling Fan: Intel Certified CPU Fan & Heatsink [-20]

Motherboard: [CrossFireX] GIGABYTE Z77-DS3H Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 2x Gen3 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1 & 2 PCI

Memory: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (G.SKILL Ripjaws X [+16])

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+385] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

Power Supply Upgrade: * 650 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+71]

Hard Drive: 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200 RPM HDD [+20] (Single Drive)

Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

LCD Monitor: 24" Widescreen 1920x1080 ASUS VS247H-P LCD [+157]

Keyboard: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge

Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Professional [+135] (64-bit Edition)

Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

One I configured at Cyberpowerpc

$1464
i5-3570
8gb gskill ripjaws
gigabyte MB
EVGA 670 FTW edition
Corsair 650 watt PSU
1 TB Wester Digital Caviar Black HD

That's about as good as you're going to get pre built.
Edited by mudman091878 - 8/15/12 at 8:52pm
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post #85 of 107
Fallacy, Sorry I sort of abandoned you on this thread. that build at xoticpc looks OK, it is a bit pricey, but I don't think its insanely out of whack. What the majority of the people in this thread fail to realize, is that xoticpc/alienware/dell/hp/sony/origin/ etc... etc... etc... ARE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY. They have to get paid for the work they're putting in to assemble, test, troubleshooting, package, ship, provide warranty for etc...

How about this?
INSURGENT Stage 3 "Paramount"
- Cooler Master Storm Enforcer
- 600W Corsair GS Power Supply Unit
- ASUS P8Z77-V LX (Intel Z77 Chipset) (ATX Form Factor, 4 DIMMS, 4 PCI Expansion Slots, *Does Not Support SLI)
- Intel® Core i5-3570K (3.40-3.80GHz) (22nm, 6MB cache) (Quad-Core CPU) (Z77 Motherboard Required)
- NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 670 (2GB)
- 500GB 7200RPM Seagate Barracuda (16MB Cache)
- 24x DVD Writer/Reader + 48x CD Writer/Reader
- Stock Chassis Fans
- 8GB DDR3 1600MHz (4GBx2 SODIMMS) XOTIC PC Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
- Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
- XOTIC PC's White Glove Premium Packaging is standard on all Desktops!
- No Rush Build - Standard Production Time is 8-12 Business Days
- LIFETIME Labor & 1 Year Parts Warranty with LIFETIME 24/7 Domestic Telephone Technical Support

for $1420 and you could tweak the case too, i dont like the corsair c70 in green, and the base case is pretty low end.

This way he has around $80 to choose a different case, or more if he goes with a cheaper one. Ore uses that for a keyboard and mouse. Then he would just need a monitor which can be had for $100 for a cheap one to get him started.

And I just put that same rig together on Newegg....

$1185 before rebates. So its a $250-300 up-charge for it to be assembled, tested, and warrantied for 1 year.... I think that's a fair increase in price to get a pretty solid gaming desktop...

I think that's a pretty solid rig. I came up to the same thing as mudman above me pretty much, I would choose a gigabyte board over Asus personally, and you do get name brand ram with cyber power. And honestly it doesn't sound like your buddy will overclock anything either, so you can drop the "K" series CPU to save a few more dollars if there is that option.
Edited by identitycrisis - 8/16/12 at 10:21am
     
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@ OP, if you're still looking for a pre-built. I would suggest Central Computers. It's a mom&pop small retail chain in the California Bay Area. thumb.gif
http://www.centralcomputers.com

They care about wire management and smaller aesthetics when assembling rigs.

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post #87 of 107
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tthanks you everyone for the contributions. It seems like many people are suggesting the 670, but my friend says he doesnt need or want the graphics power of my 670. So in the interest of saving him money what gpu would better suit his needs?
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tthanks you everyone for the contributions. It seems like many people are suggesting the 670, but my friend says he doesnt need or want the graphics power of my 670. So in the interest of saving him money what gpu would better suit his needs?


save money, build it for him. im not gonna stop pushing this you know. tongue.gif
Plus those prebuilt companies usually only give you a 1 year warranty.
If you build your own, the parts will be 3-5 year warranties.
and you save a lot of money. Like 500$ as shown previously by one of my posts.
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save money, build it for him. im not gonna stop pushing this you know. tongue.gif
Plus those prebuilt companies usually only give you a 1 year warranty.
If you build your own, the parts will be 3-5 year warranties.
and you save a lot of money. Like 500$ as shown previously by one of my posts.

its not an option, stop pushing for it. Fallacy knows its cheaper to build, but his friend wants a system built by someone else, so stop recommending him something that isn't an option.
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tthanks you everyone for the contributions. It seems like many people are suggesting the 670, but my friend says he doesnt need or want the graphics power of my 670. So in the interest of saving him money what gpu would better suit his needs?

Well then, try to get him into a GTX 660TI or at worst a GTX 570. I don't know what an amd equivalent would be, because i personally don't pay attention to anything but their mobile cards. So sorry i cant be of more help. the heart of a gaming computer is a GPU, I don't know why he would want to skimp on the GPU. but to each his own.

I think any of the configurations recommended in this thread along with a change in care would be worth it.
     
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my suggested build with newegg link for price

Mobo:asus Maximus V gene=200$ ( good audio and features)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131830

GPU: asus 660ti Top edition = 300$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121653&Tpk=asus%20660ti

Cpu:Intel i5 3570 = 215$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115233

Case: thermaltake Red nice looking = 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133199

Cpu cooler: cooler master 212= 35$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Ram: corsair 8GB ( 4gbx2dimms) = 58$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145340

PSU:XFX 650W for future upgrade sli maybe = 86$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014

HD: 1TB 7200rpm WD= 110$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533

SSD:60GB ocz for os = 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227725

Total so far 1124$

if need invest little more in motherboard or Gpu depends on games he will play or future upgrade if want future proof then better mobo,
this build will play wow max ofc and most of games out there also max the 660Ti is amazing performer

u can still tweek this build and make it cheaper like Power supply , Ram, SSD and cpu these 4 i kind of chosen them little higher then ur bro requirements for future needs for games and Mist of pandarian require more then Cataclysm

i also did on cyber power awesome build
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Xtreme_1000_SE/
with sabertooth mobo and ocz SSD also Ram corsair 8GB 1600mhz
with 660ti evga superclocked = total 1414$
Edited by fido - 8/17/12 at 2:25pm
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