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8/3/12 at 2:17pm

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*yawn* Valve is getting annoying, and totally killing whatever respect people have for them.

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8/3/12 at 2:25pm

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*yawn* Valve is getting annoying, and totally killing whatever respect people have for them.

Because they're expanding to Linux?

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8/3/12 at 2:27pm

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*yawn* Valve is getting annoying, and totally killing whatever respect people have for them.

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Anyways, this is great news! What would make it even better is if they would release HL3 with the Linux version. That would probably be the only thing big enough to really make Linux gaming a formidable foe to Windows.

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Check it out

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1MjM

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Why does this news come as no surprise?

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8/3/12 at 5:24pm

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Originally Posted by james8

no SLI support for openGL

not like i'd need SLI for ancient source dx9 anyway
but i shall refrain from trash-talking OpenGL from now on.

Good, because every time I've seen you trash talk OpenGL it's with ill informed arguments that got jumped on by like 5 people in at least one topic.

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Why is everyone bashing windows 8! Its going to be amazing IMHO!
Also I think us Bulldozer users will see a much smaller bottleneck with CFX setups in Linux, as the kernel handles the 8150 better than the windows 7 kernel from what I hear.

Because your opinion clearly matches everyone elses.

And the bottleneck in dual GPU setups isn't the CPU for AMD (Well, most of it, anyway), there's something else causing it because going to a faster CPU doesn't completely alleviate it in a way that would point to it being only a CPU bottleneck, I have a feeling it's the HT Link to the CPU speed.

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I don't know much on the subject, can OpenGL do everything that DX11 can, does it look as good?

Nope, OpenGL is equivilant to DX9 at best....

OpenGL was more advanced than DX was for a long time, DX is only catching up now OpenGL isn't used as much for games; for example OpenGL had tessellation way before DX.

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I was talking about looks, but to be honest there ins't any good looking OpenGL games that can compete with dx11. May bad.

Someone probably could make something that looks nearly as good as Crysis on DX7 if they really wanted to with enough time and patience, or they could remake Minecraft using DX11; DX version doesn't mean crap with how good graphics look, it usually means easier coding and some additional features these days, or plain optimisations in DX10s case.

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Open GL is great, it actually supported tessellation before DX11 came out... the main problem is the Microsoft Monopoly, developers are "encouraged" to use The Direct X API.

^This. Open GL can look every bit as good as DX11. But the reason almost no one uses it is the same why we are still stuck with DX9 games instead of moving to full DX10 only. Developers are stuck using the same old console API's that then get badly ported to the PC. Another big reason is that now days a lot of games are made with UDK and that's a directX engine.

Wrong, the main reason is that MS led people to believe that OpenGL wasn't being really allowed with decent performance in Vista/7, the PS3 and Wii actually use versions of OpenGL iirc.

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Image quality will be horrible just like Quake 3 on Linux.

Yeah...Nah. It won't.

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Long story short, times have changed.

True they have, I was just showing that DirectX was already the primary API before xbox was even out.

I read up on this a little, kind of interesting that Microsoft intended Directx to be addative to OpenGL, not a competitor.

DX was only primary after the Xbox and some Vista FUD, most games back before the Xbox (Even up until the middle of its life time) had a DX version or OpenGL version.

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There is Fedora Gaming Edition, but keep in mind Valve is ONLY guarantees support for UBUNTU at the moment. Sure you can run it on Fedora or something else, but they can' say for sure it will work.

That just means anyone running Fedora, etc will have to do a bit more work to get it to work properly at first.

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Could this be because Linux isn't as resource hungry as a Windows machine? Now imagine the potential of maximizing gaming on a Linux box... I like this idea

Somewhat, it's also that Linux is just more efficient than Windows; even Linux in a VM folding on a CPU is faster than native Windows.

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8/3/12 at 5:29pm

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http://rastergrid.com/blog/2011/10/opengl-vs-directx-the-war-is-far-from-over/

nuff said...

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Check it out

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1MjM

Not going to lie...but damn that looked better than Cryengine.

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Check it out

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1MjM

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Unigine is by far the best looking engine I have seen with Cryengine in a close second. Unigine is also FAR less CPU dependent than Cryengine is.

And it supports linux

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